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The *OFFICIAL* Russia Is About To Invade Ukraine Thread

It always strikes me as a little odd that enforcing a no-fly-zone is instigating yourself into the conflict yet giving billions of dollars in aid, weapons, etc. is somehow not a declaration of picking a side. Just weird dynamics.

It's readily apparent to me that Russia thought this was going to be a cake walk, but have underestimated the resolve of Ukraine and the world stage. Putin has set his country back another 30 years.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Even that didn't work. Still can't see the video.

@fishonjazz what song is it?
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One Day by a dude named matisyahu. Give it a listen. The lyrics are fantastic. Maybe even watch the video with the lyrics on screen.
 
The Thriller said:
When you say, “people are saying Russia doesn’t want Ukraine to join NATO”, who are these people? American news outlets (other than Fox News and OAN, I don’t know of other news outlets saying this)? American friends? Or Chinese state news? It’s been widely reported here that Chinese news has adopted the pro Kremlin line and I’m curious if that’s their line? Or are they going the whole 9 yards claiming that Russia is off to fight a glorious war to de-nazify Ukraine and rid the world of Ukrainian biolabs?

China finds itself in an interesting positions. I’m sure Xi can relate to Putin’s autocratic feelings. But if he supports Putin he risks alienating the west. The west is a far greater trading partner than Russia. Plus the weaker Russia becomes the more desperate they might get to unload their natural resources to China.

China isn’t exactly in a great position to help Russia, right? They’re dealing with financial/economic issues and another Covid wave, right?

Interesting times we live in
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I mean Russia has said it doesnt want Ukraine to join NATO, people are saying that, and media are reporting it everywhere. As far as that being the reason to invade, I dont think that at all but many people including people in this thread are making that assertion.

As far as China goes there media isnt reporting much about it. People here generally are okay with the war because its weakening the west/USA, some are in support of Russia, and some are supportive of Ukraine.

From the Government side and USA media... That is too much to discuss. But, firstly usa media and people in the usa in generally dont really know much about China and are way off in regards to most things like this. The China situation with Taiwan is very different and the Russia and China are very different. China cares about itself and that is it. It does not care about Russia. It is taking a somewhat neutral stance but recently is switching more towards Ukraine because that is economically smart. China want no part of a war and there is no chance they would send military to other countries for something like this. Their military is to protect itself so it isnt decimated and humiliated again like it was for a long period. They went from one of the more advanced and well along countries to complete ruin allowing communism to sweep in. USA still says taiwan is part of China and the Taiwan straight situation is okay. China is okay with that and doesnt not want to have a war over it. They dont want an excuse for the west to attack them.

China is dealing with a small covid outbreak but it isnt really effecting things. Its been the same since it started with how its handled. China's economy was hurt by covid especially at first but its bounced back. They opened up and got back to a somewhat normal situation quicker than any other country. They could help Russia if they wanted, but I seriously doubt they would want to since it does not benefit them and will most likely lead to sanctions against China that would hurt them a lot.
 
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