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We don't need our own pick back if we trade Lauri, which is one of the big incentives for trading him. Makes me substantially less interested in trading with okc versus someone else.
 
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Thunder have the 12th pick this year

The right to swap their own pick for the Clips or Rockets pick next year.

The 2026 Clips pick.

A few lightly protected picks from Philly, Miami and Utah.

Give me 12 this year, the next two years of Clips picks, and our own pick back, Dieng and Wallace and I’m in. If they want to sub Wallace out for Giddy I take another protected pick.

I’d then work to flip 12 and the protected pick we go for #5 this year to get Castle. I may send Giddy out but if the offers aren’t great he’s worth a shot to see if there is something there.

I'm not sure I'm up for helping another team win a championship, but if we did trade Lauri to OKC, this would be what it would take.
 
They'll be looking to vastly improve. They don't have the room either for 100 picks. They thought Gordo was the bump they needed but he rode pine all playoffs. Thoughts on Lauri for Cason + 3/4 picks?
Not smart to make OKC—in our own division— an even bigger powerhouse for the next 6 years
 
Not smart to make OKC—in our own division— an even bigger powerhouse for the next 6 years
I wonder if OKC fans thought the same thing when they traded Paul George to the clippers.

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Thunder have the 12th pick this year

The right to swap their own pick for the Clips or Rockets pick next year.

The 2026 Clips pick.

A few lightly protected picks from Philly, Miami and Utah.

Give me 12 this year, the next two years of Clips picks, and our own pick back, Dieng and Wallace and I’m in. If they want to sub Wallace out for Giddy I take another protected pick.

I’d then work to flip 12 and the protected pick we go for #5 this year to get Castle. I may send Giddy out but if the offers aren’t great he’s worth a shot to see if there is something there.

IMO this is a deal that is OK if Lauri doesn't want to be here, but not exactly a deal that's too good to pass up. I think I like tanking w/Lauri over this. I'm not overly optomistic about the upcoming two years of Clipper picks, and returning our own pick doesn't do much for me because if we're trading Lauri we out to be tanking in 2026 as well.

I would HOU hope that would step up to the plate and beat this offer. They could offer the most premium assets, including #3.

Also, how do we all feel about Cason as an incoming trade asset? He was awesome as a rookie and a guy that every winning team will want to have, but is he what we want if we're going full tank? I think Cason is player who will be more valuable to OKC than us, so we should try to get more draft capital/higher upside instead. I think I would take Giddey+more picks.
 
A good chunk of the OKC farm for Lauri I think could be a pretty mutually beneficial trade.

I wonder if Lauri and Chet are too similar though, doesn't OKC needs more like a Kessler archetype? Or just one of the better, less expensive big men available (Jarrett Allen for example)
 
A good chunk of the OKC farm for Lauri I think could be a pretty mutually beneficial trade.

I wonder if Lauri and Chet are too similar though, doesn't OKC needs more like a Kessler archetype? Or just one of the better, less expensive big men available (Jarrett Allen for example)
They like to play five-out so I think Lauri is a much better fit than some of the bigs people have mentioned (Zach Edey) too.
 
They like to play five-out so I think Lauri is a much better fit than some of the bigs people have mentioned (Zach Edey) too.
It could be crazy good, and obviously Lauri is the best player of any being discussed here.

I guess I'm just wondering if the Thunder would feel their issues are solved on defense by just adding a second Chet. Maybe they do, and maybe they would! Or maybe Lauri and Chet are much less similar than my problematic mind is making them.

They'd still have the assets to get more giant bodies to throw down low if needed too I suppose.


I support the thread idea, is my overall point here.
 
It could be crazy good, and obviously Lauri is the best player of any being discussed here.

I guess I'm just wondering if the Thunder would feel their issues are solved on defense by just adding a second Chet. Maybe they do, and maybe they would! Or maybe Lauri and Chet are much less similar than my problematic mind is making them.

They'd still have the assets to get more giant bodies to throw down low if needed too I suppose.


I support the thread idea, is my overall point here.

Lauri can play with anyone and he would be a great fit with Chet and OKC. I think they would probably like to have a more physical option at C....but probably more as a backup who can give them a different look.

Their defense wasn't bad this playoffs....they just need more shooting around Shai. Lauri is a big upgrade over Joe/Giddey.
 
IMO this is a deal that is OK if Lauri doesn't want to be here, but not exactly a deal that's too good to pass up. I think I like tanking w/Lauri over this. I'm not overly optomistic about the upcoming two years of Clipper picks, and returning our own pick doesn't do much for me because if we're trading Lauri we out to be tanking in 2026 as well.

I would HOU hope that would step up to the plate and beat this offer. They could offer the most premium assets, including #3.

Also, how do we all feel about Cason as an incoming trade asset? He was awesome as a rookie and a guy that every winning team will want to have, but is he what we want if we're going full tank? I think Cason is player who will be more valuable to OKC than us, so we should try to get more draft capital/higher upside instead. I think I would take Giddey+more picks.

Cason and George are childhood friends and I think they would be fun to watch together. I love Cason and would love to see him play defense for the Jazz every night. I also think he is super young and so there is still a chance he could develop in to more than just a 3&D guard.

All that said, it's still a good point.
 
Cason and George are childhood friends and I think they would be fun to watch together. I love Cason and would love to see him play defense for the Jazz every night. I also think he is super young and so there is still a chance he could develop in to more than just a 3&D guard.

All that said, it's still a good point.

Something lost in Cason's draft eval was that he might have been the most mature and well rounded "PG" in the class. He was comfortable operating in PnR, didn't have a big weakness, and almost never made mistakes. I don't doubt that he has more than he's able to show in OKC....I just think that OKC is going to want to hold onto him dearly and if that's the case we might as well get paid handsomely in other assets.

I would definitely want Cason over Giddey, for example, but you're probably paying extra for Cason and getting Giddey on a discount. One player can't play in the playoffs for them and the other fills an important role perfectly.
 
IMO this is a deal that is OK if Lauri doesn't want to be here, but not exactly a deal that's too good to pass up. I think I like tanking w/Lauri over this. I'm not overly optomistic about the upcoming two years of Clipper picks, and returning our own pick doesn't do much for me because if we're trading Lauri we out to be tanking in 2026 as well.

I would HOU hope that would step up to the plate and beat this offer. They could offer the most premium assets, including #3.

Also, how do we all feel about Cason as an incoming trade asset? He was awesome as a rookie and a guy that every winning team will want to have, but is he what we want if we're going full tank? I think Cason is player who will be more valuable to OKC than us, so we should try to get more draft capital/higher upside instead. I think I would take Giddey+more picks.
I'm very optimistic about the Clips picks. Kawhi got his deal... then got injured again. He is just broken. PG will bail unless they max him out. Harden likely stays but he is one of the scariest dudes to pay money imo. Next year the west is gonna be most likely even more competitive. A 20 game absence from 1 or 2 of those guys or if one bails and I think they could quickly fade into the lotto. Their top 7 guys were really healthy this year (compared to where they normally are). Westbrook also sounded like he will look elsewhere and he was a cheap and valuable player for them during the regular season.

I think they most likely end up around the play in territory and will need to be healthy at the right time to avoid the lotto. I will take that bet.

That said I like the Houston trade as I like Green, Smith Jr, Whitmore more than Giddey (I think they keep Cason off the table) and I would rather have #3 and the Brooklyn 2026 pick more than the Clips picks (and the protected ones).
 
I wouldn’t worry about George and in any of these trades. Just get the best players you can.
 
I'm very optimistic about the Clips picks. Kawhi got his deal... then got injured again. He is just broken. PG will bail unless they max him out. Harden likely stays but he is one of the scariest dudes to pay money imo. Next year the west is gonna be most likely even more competitive. A 20 game absence from 1 or 2 of those guys or if one bails and I think they could quickly fade into the lotto. Their top 7 guys were really healthy this year (compared to where they normally are). Westbrook also sounded like he will look elsewhere and he was a cheap and valuable player for them during the regular season.

I think they most likely end up around the play in territory and will need to be healthy at the right time to avoid the lotto. I will take that bet.

That said I like the Houston trade as I like Green, Smith Jr, Whitmore more than Giddey (I think they keep Cason off the table) and I would rather have #3 and the Brooklyn 2026 pick more than the Clips picks (and the protected ones).

I guess it’s all relative. It’s definitely better than a protected pick or some distant pick from a team that is almost certain to be good. I guess I just mean I’m not optimistic about a LAC collapse. Ballmer has an unlimited checkbook (meaning they’ll resign their guys) and Ty Lue has proven to be very good with a skeleton crew. I don’t think the scenario you’re saying is that unrealistic though.

In any case, I think Rockets have the better assets….OKC probably has more incentive to make a deal given that they are much closer and could R+E Lauri I believe.
 
I guess it’s all relative. It’s definitely better than a protected pick or some distant pick from a team that is almost certain to be good. I guess I just mean I’m not optimistic about a LAC collapse. Ballmer has an unlimited checkbook (meaning they’ll resign their guys) and Ty Lue has proven to be very good with a skeleton crew. I don’t think the scenario you’re saying is that unrealistic though.

In any case, I think Rockets have the better assets….OKC probably has more incentive to make a deal given that they are much closer and could R+E Lauri I believe.
I think both teams could manufacture enough space to do a R&E. I think Houston is actually more likely to do something with the owner kinda pressuring the FO and not having full control of their own picks. OKC should be more motivated but they are really patient. Maybe motivation is a toss up.
 
Meh, even outside of the off court stuff I don't want to be in the Josh Giddy business. I'm going to need Wallace at a bare minimum in addition to whatever OKC would offer. He's going to be better than any of the draft picks they could offer.
 
I guess it’s all relative. It’s definitely better than a protected pick or some distant pick from a team that is almost certain to be good. I guess I just mean I’m not optimistic about a LAC collapse. Ballmer has an unlimited checkbook (meaning they’ll resign their guys) and Ty Lue has proven to be very good with a skeleton crew. I don’t think the scenario you’re saying is that unrealistic though.

In any case, I think Rockets have the better assets….OKC probably has more incentive to make a deal given that they are much closer and could R+E Lauri I believe.

I feel pretty good about a total clipper collapse for that 2027 pick swap. To me that is the real prize that the thunder own. If we are doing a deal with the thunder then these are the picks I'm demanding.

12th pick this year
Clippers 25 swap rights so either the clipper or thunder pick
Clippers 26 pick
Clippers 27 swap rights so either the clipper or thunder pick
Mavs 28 swap rights so either the mavs or thunder pick

If we get those picks I'm fine with them keeping Cason and us taking back Giddey and Dieng.
 
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