The Paths Forward From Here

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think the price for Quickley would likely be less than Murray although I’m not entirely sure.

I think IQ has more upside but the contract certainty with Murray is important. If IQ came here and blew up I could see some team rolling out the max for him. So giving up a good player like Sexton, 2 picks all for the right to pay him a max would be tough. I would be in both conversations and see which price is easier to handle.


We really should have held off on John Collins lol… not having him would help in both these instances.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Quickley is good, but the question is whether he's good enough to justify a >$125M contract he's looking for. His situation seems similar to Tyler Herro a few years ago. If teams want to pay someone like an All Star, they need to be confident that he actually is close to that level of player.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Quickley is good, but the question is whether he's good enough to justify a >$125M contract he's looking for. His situation seems similar to Tyler Herro a few years ago. If teams want to pay someone like an All Star, they need to be confident that he actually is close to that level of player.

It's not that hard of a question.

Players who are as accurate from 3 on his volume while being plus defenders are rare.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Quickley is good, but the question is whether he's good enough to justify a >$125M contract he's looking for. His situation seems similar to Tyler Herro a few years ago. If teams want to pay someone like an All Star, they need to be confident that he actually is close to that level of player.

The potential is for him to get a 4/160M offer in restricted FA. 5/125M would be fine for him. If we got him this offseason we could have done that and even had the values decline so it was a complete bargain by the end. At this point you are at the mercy of the market and it could really hamper your ability to do more around those guys.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

It's not that hard of a question.

Players who are as accurate from 3 on his volume while being plus defenders are rare.

You want to give Quickley $25M/year when DeAnthony Melton is making $8M? Even if you think Quickley is comparable to Derrick White ($18M), do you still want to pay him that much?

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

The potential is for him to get a 4/160M offer in restricted FA. 5/125M would be fine for him. If we got him this offseason we could have done that and even had the values decline so it was a complete bargain by the end. At this point you are at the mercy of the market and it could really hamper your ability to do more around those guys.

If I'm the Jazz, I'm not making a play for Quickley at those prices.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

You want to give Quickley $25M/year when DeAnthony Melton is making $8M? Even if you think Quickley is comparable to Derrick White ($18M), do you still want to pay him that much?

Yes.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If I'm the Jazz, I'm not making a play for Quickley at those prices.

If you trade for IQ plan on paying him 35M a year and anything you get below that count it as a bonus.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Acquiring IQ without offloading a substantial contract would also nuke a Lauri renegotiate and sign. So if you aren't offloading Sexton in the deal you need to plan on moving him in another deal.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Acquiring IQ without offloading a substantial contract would also nuke a Lauri renegotiate and sign. So if you aren't offloading Sexton in the deal you need to plan on moving him in another deal.

Don't make me bust

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Knicks are just in a weird spot. A lot of good players around Brunson and Randle and its unsustainable to pay them all starting next year. Will have to start making some choices. If they want to retain Grimes, IQ, hartenstein then they need to move some other dudes.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Knicks are just in a weird spot. A lot of good players around Brunson and Randle and its unsustainable to pay them all starting next year. Will have to start making some choices. If they want to retain Grimes, IQ, hartenstein then they need to move some other dudes.

Not sure if retaining those guys puts them over the apron but it would make it challenging to pull off a star trade they keep promising if they can't aggregate salaries.