The Paths Forward From Here

[jom2003]

Maybe the Jazz would if Keyonte weren't one of only two ball movers on the team.

Not true. Both THT and Dunn can move the ball as well. Racking up more assists on less turnovers. Olynyk is a great ball mover too. Plus even if that was true, George's ball moving skill alone isn't enough to justify him being on the floor, as he's a big negative on all other aspects of the game which result in a negative winshare overall, tie with Luka Shamanic for last place on the team.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Not true. Both THT and Dunn can move the ball as well. Racking up more assists on less turnovers. Olynyk is a great ball mover too. Plus even if that was true, George's ball moving skill alone isn't enough to justify him being on the floor, as he's a big negative on all other aspects of the game which result in a negative winshare overall, tie with Luka Shamanic for last place on the team.

Ball moving does not equal assist.

Neither Dunn or THT are ball movers, Kelly is.

 

[jom2003]

Everyone seems to be pretty sure that Cooper Flagg is a generational talent who's worth tanking for. I think it's a bit early for that. We've only seen him face high school competition, and he seems to have been a bit of an early bloomer.

My main concern is that he doesn't seem to have NBA quickness for his size. It wouldn't matter that much if he was 6'10'' like the BS hype machine says, but he's not... he's 6'8'', like Buzelis. That's a small forward.

I like his game a lot, but some of his success has clearly come from physically dominating high schoolers. He's very long, which is good, but his foot speed is nothing special even at the HS level.

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This guy does some awesome work on breaking down negatives about those elite NBA prospects. Definitely worth watching.

But still pretty excited about the possibility of having Flagg in Utah for the obvious reason

 

[jom2003]

Ball moving does not equal assist.

Neither Dunn or THT are ball movers, Kelly is.

Thought in the whole JFZ you would be the one to agree on THT being the better ball mover than George?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Thought in the whole JFZ you would be the one to agree on THT being the better ball mover than George?

No, because he clearly isnt. I'm someone who appreciates THT for the things he can do, not make up stuff and attribute it to him.

THT is nice at drive and kick and seeing passes, but he's still a guy who stops the ball more than he moves it.

 

[Bodhi]

I think Keyonte is nice and has a lot of potential, but I havent seen enough to call him a surefire bet to be a future top 10 PG. IQ is a top 10 PG once he gets starter minutes.

Wait, y’all have come around on IQ? This is rich.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Knicks traded IQ and RJ to Toronto for OG.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Wait, y’all have come around on IQ? This is rich.

Where the **** you been? Post more brother.

 

[Fosto]

I guess now that Quickley is gone, Murray is the Jazz only remaining option to upgrade the PG spot.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I guess now that Quickley is gone, Murray is the Jazz only remaining option to upgrade the PG spot.

*whispers* Trae Young

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

*whispers* Trae Young

I will quit

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I will quit

If you just take out all our guards and replace them w/ 3&D wings, we might have a squad though.

Trae unlocks Walker more than anyone else can. Trae/Lauri are a great combo. Hendricks would fit in nicely.

 

[Elizah Huge]

*whispers* Trae Young

I was actually about to post this right now. It’s an idea being floated on Twitter. I would do it depending on price. Lauri would feast and he would unlock Kessler.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If you just take out all our guards and replace them w/ 3&D wings, we might have a squad though.

Trae unlocks Walker more than anyone else can. Trae/Lauri are a great combo. Hendricks would fit in nicely.

I know he’s good. I hate how he plays basketball and have no faith it will get you anywhere meaningful.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I know he’s good. I hate how he plays basketball and have no faith it will get you anywhere meaningful.

I mean, he's been to the conference finals....

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I mean, he's been to the conference finals....

I’m aware. He’s not complete fools gold but I bet he never gets as far as he did that year. Philly also had a monumental meltdown… it happens so not completely flukey but I’d be surprised if he’s the best player on a second round team again. He’s also the guy who gets the most overrated player award from other players and seems to be a ****** teammate. If you are going to top out as a second round team then at least do it with something fun to watch.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I’m aware. He’s not complete fools gold but I bet he never gets as far as he did that year. Philly also had a monumental meltdown… it happens so not completely flukey but I’d be surprised if he’s the best player on a second round team again. He’s also the guy who gets the most overrated player award from other players and seems to be a ****** teammate. If you are going to top out as a second round team then at least do it with something fun to watch.

Sure, but just imagine the offense with Lauri/Trae.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Honestly if I won the lottery this year, I would try and use the #1 overall pick to get a guy *like* Trae. Like that star who is kind of on the market, but the team needs to be blown away. Even in a weak draft, getting the #1 pick is just such a huge sell to your fanbase.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Trae
Ochai
Hendricks
Lauri
Walker

That's a squad when Hendricks figures it out.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I mean, now I'm talking myself into Trae Young being the perfect fit and a buy low star.

Trae has always been on badly designed Atlanta teams.