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jimmy eat jazz said:
You may not shell out money for these other clowns, but plenty of other people do. And if they do, it is because they believe that these clowns possess unique talents that they are willing to pay for.

I understand the frustration that players getting paid big bucks sometimes or often mail it in. A prime reason I favor getting rid of guaranteed contracts.

Why rail on rich, young black men for conspicuous consumption, when rich old white men have been spending conspicuously for a hell of a lot longer?

I understand that the situation in the NBA is out of whack and does need to be adjusted. Frankly, I think a lot, though surely not all, of this anger it is motivated by rank jealousy.
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....what "other" people do with or spend their money is up to them. If they want to spend large sums of money to see NBA clowns or "real" clowns from a Circus, that's up to them to decide!! If they feel such "unique" talents deserve to make all that money, then, like the foolish owners, they can throw as much money at them as they want! And it's not a race issue for me, although I'm sure behind the scenes some of the owners are fed up with the "thug" and "tattoo" image that dominates todays NBA. It never bothered me back in the 70's and 80's how much any of these players made, white or black. But today it does! But it's not jealousy or envy....just a total waste of money on such a poor investment that tee's me off!! But your post was well written....and I'll take it under advisement!
 
JimLes said:
The problem with the players is that they have traditionally done an atrocious job getting the fans on their side. You just cannot rub your wealth in people's faces the way some NBA players do and expect fans to be on your side in a dispute over money. Especially, as many pointed out, at a time when many average people are feeling the effects of the recession. It's just bad PR. Now, the owners have the advantage of being largely anonymous. Sure, there are a few outspoken ones everyone know like Cuban, but who the hell know who owns the Spurs? Or the Magic? Or even the Celtics?

Fair or not, players are in the public eye while the owners are not. It's up to players to get the fans on their side, and they do not seem to be doing a very good job. You just can't go on MTV Cribs, show off your ridiculous mansion, then expect me to feel bad that you might lose that mansion. I just don't understand what the players believe their moral ground here is, and how they intend to explain it as such to fans.
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.....good post! Then you can throw in the pathetic play on display by players making 100,000 plus PER GAME (no defense, poor shooting, multiple turnovers, unable to remember plays, indications of being totally uncoachable) and educated fans are NOT going to sympathize with the players, that's for sure!
 
this year was the first year in 6 years i did not take nba lp broadband. as prices keep rising and rising out of control.
doens tthe nba realise they cant jsut infinatly keep raising prices they wont get more income by raising prices. cus they lose customers. so sooner or later the system will collapse
 
PKM said:
I'm for whichever side convinces the other that the one-and-done rule becomes two-and-done. ;)
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NO!!!!! If that happens then Utah is yet again screwed on another draft where we will for sure have two picks in the top 20, possibly two lottery picks.
 
I find the OP interesting.
I am bothered more by the story of the Dockworkers Union than I am by the Basketball Players Union.
I would gladly work on the docks for 100k a year. What gives union the right to keep the jobs for their friends and family , and keep wages at 200k a year, and pass those costs on to the American consumers?
 
PKM said:
I'm for whichever side convinces the other that the one-and-done rule becomes two-and-done. ;)
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Better for the college game and for the NBA game...although it might actually hurt Calipari if some of his players actually have to stay for more than a year. He'll have out space out his recruiting a little.
 
northeast said:
I find the OP interesting.
I am bothered more by the story of the Dockworkers Union than I am by the Basketball Players Union.
I would gladly work on the docks for 100k a year. What gives union the right to keep the jobs for their friends and family , and keep wages at 200k a year, and pass those costs on to the American consumers?
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.....here's a typical union workers day at the docks: suppose to start work at 8 am....they start about 8:20. They take there first break at 10 am playing cards until 10:30...back to work about 10:45. Lunch starts at 12 noon, but they stop working at 11:45. Back to work at 1 pm....but they don't actually start working till 1:15. Afternoon break is 3 pm till 3:30 but they won't be back working till 3:45. There day ends at 5 pm, but they generally stop working about 4:30. They get EVERY conceiveable holiday off including "Ground Hogs Day" with full pay. If they are unloading anything and they drop it and it hits the floor, they won't pick it up. They are the biggest "Gold brickers" in the history of the American work force! I've got more first hand stories if your interested!
 
Just for fun, your 1995 Utah Jazz:


1 Karl Malone $3,676,000
2 John Stockton $2,800,000
3 Antoine Carr $2,525,000
4 Chris Morris $2,500,000
5 Felton Spencer $2,181,000
6 Jeff Hornacek $2,121,000
7 Adam Keefe $1,650,000
8 David Benoit $1,200,000
9 Greg Ostertag $498,000
10 Greg Foster $350,000
11 Andy Toolson $310,000
12 Bryon Russell $300,000

Total: $20,011,250
Kobe Bryant 2011: $24,806,250
 
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