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fishonjazz said:
Great post.

By the way, its very strange to me that adults watch WWE. Just not for me I guess. I have good friends who are big WWE fans and I just cant understand it.
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I didn't even like it when I was in my early teens. Never understood the appeal and absolutely can't understand how it survived past the 90s. It has such an 80s feel to it but maybe that's just because that's when I discovered it?
 
LogGrad98 said:
I don't know how to feel about this one, but it does complete the "celebrities die in 3's" trifecta.

But as far as Hogan is concerned, as a kid I loved him. As I grew up it became more of a nostalgia thing when I would see him on TV now and then, when I stopped watching wrestling because it is just fake and stupid, and then as I grew to know his political thoughts, that he endorsed Trump especially, and probably racist predilections, I grew to actively dislike the guy. Won't say hate. With some pity mixed in as he got caught up in so much stupid ****, I guess like most celebs. So it is a weird mix of "aww, that's sad, I remember him and Andre the Giant wrestling on TV" and "who gives a ****, at least if removes another backward thinking troglodyte". Good...riddance? Goodbye? Let's just say, goodbye.
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Wait, Ozzy, Hulk, who else?
 
fishonjazz said:
Great post.

By the way, its very strange to me that adults watch WWE. Just not for me I guess. I have good friends who are big WWE fans and I just cant understand it.
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Same. I imagine in plenty ways I'm stuck in my teenage years. Most of us are to some extent. But to be stuck there through WWE just feels weird and juvenile on another level.
 
The other day I watched a youtube video about "Superstar" Billy Graham a wrestler who Hogan took a lot of things from. Graham admitted to taking steroids and was disappointed when Hogan went on Arsenio Hall and wouldnt admit to it. Later we learned that a lot of wrestlers hated Hogan behind the scenes and were tired of his BS. The feud between him and Iron Sheik is hilarious.

Was I like a lot of kids a fan of Hogan at one point, of course, and he was probably the single most important figure in wrestling history. But he's done a lot of terrible things, ruining TNA wrestling which was a great alternative to WWE and his latest politcal stuff are just more examples. The movies he did were pretty bad as well. Watching Dark Side of the Ring opened my eyes to how bad some of these wrestlers were a people. Just remembered about him ratting out Ventura to Vince. There are so many things.
 
I think it might be hard to describe to people with no memory of the pre-internet era just how big Hulk Hogan was for a period in the last 80s. I remember being 7 years old in the dying day of communist Yugoslavia and renting a VHS of No Holds Barred because I loved Hogan. I can't quite figure out how I even knew who he was because WWE certainly wasn't shown on state TV in freaking Yugoslavia.

And on the topic of No Holds Barred, which was a terrible movie in which Hulk basically played himself, not only was a it a major studio release, but it finished 2nd behind Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade in earnings the week it opened. That's astounding when you think about it.
 
prodigy said:
The other day I watched a youtube video about "Superstar" Billy Graham a wrestler who Hogan took a lot of things from. Graham admitted to taking steroids and was disappointed when Hogan went on Arsenio Hall and wouldnt admit to it. Later we learned that a lot of wrestlers hated Hogan behind the scenes and were tired of his BS. The feud between him and Iron Sheik is hilarious.

Was I like a lot of kids a fan of Hogan at one point, of course, and he was probably the single most important figure in wrestling history. But he's done a lot of terrible things, ruining TNA wrestling which was a great alternative to WWE and his latest politcal stuff are just more examples. The movies he did were pretty bad as well. Watching Dark Side of the Ring opened my eyes to how bad some of these wrestlers were a people. Just remembered about him ratting out Ventura to Vince. There are so many things.
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I heard a story today about Hulks son driving drunk and getting in a car crash and killing the passenger in the car with Hulks son. Hulks son was in jail and there was a recording of a discussion between Hulk and his son talking about the passengers death and Hulk said something about how the dead kid must have had bad ju ju/bad karma and had it coming. Basically the dead kid deserved to die due to bad karma? Pretty messed up if true.
 
fishonjazz said:
I heard a story today about Hulks son driving drunk and getting in a car crash and killing the passenger in the car with Hulks son. Hulks son was in jail and there was a recording of a discussion between Hulk and his son talking about the passengers death and Hulk said something about how the dead kid must have had bad ju ju/bad karma and had it coming. Basically the dead kid deserved to die due to bad karma? Pretty messed up if true.
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq3pdXIQnfM
 
gandalfe said:
Oh, wait, a better 3rd for this:

www.usatoday.com

Chuck Mangione, whose jazz songs found new life on 'King of the Hill,' dead at 84

Chuck Mangione, the jazz trumpet legend whose song "Feels So Good" found new life on TV's "King of the Hill," has died at 84.
www.usatoday.com
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Those of a certain age have heard this hundreds of times. Damn, we are about to lose so many 60's and 70's musicians, actors, etc. It's not going to be easy losing the people we grew up on.



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKp7g0mxHVc



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JimLes said:
I think it might be hard to describe to people with no memory of the pre-internet era just how big Hulk Hogan was for a period in the last 80s. I remember being 7 years old in the dying day of communist Yugoslavia and renting a VHS of No Holds Barred because I loved Hogan. I can't quite figure out how I even knew who he was because WWE certainly wasn't shown on state TV in freaking Yugoslavia.

And on the topic of No Holds Barred, which was a terrible movie in which Hulk basically played himself, not only was a it a major studio release, but it finished 2nd behind Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade in earnings the week it opened. That's astounding when you think about it.
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The Hulkster had all the merchandise.

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuqKw3u36QI
 
fishonjazz said:
I heard a story today about Hulks son driving drunk and getting in a car crash and killing the passenger in the car with Hulks son. Hulks son was in jail and there was a recording of a discussion between Hulk and his son talking about the passengers death and Hulk said something about how the dead kid must have had bad ju ju/bad karma and had it coming. Basically the dead kid deserved to die due to bad karma? Pretty messed up if true.
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Well he was a Trumptard.
 
fishonjazz said:
I heard a story today about Hulks son driving drunk and getting in a car crash and killing the passenger in the car with Hulks son. Hulks son was in jail and there was a recording of a discussion between Hulk and his son talking about the passengers death and Hulk said something about how the dead kid must have had bad ju ju/bad karma and had it coming. Basically the dead kid deserved to die due to bad karma? Pretty messed up if true.
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Yeah his son is a POS. Even after this he still got a DUI a year or so ago. And there is body cam footage of the Hulkster showing up to meet with cops and bail his dumb *** son out who can only tell the cops that he is his son.

Anyways yeah Hogan was pretty big back in the day, perhaps the best example I can think of him randomly showing up in the Gremlins sequel. It was one of those scenes that if you saw as a kid you'll forever remember it.

View: https://youtu.be/SCk5XnxI46U?si=cOIlu6cbLcpIBcpO
 
LogGrad98 said:
Same. I imagine in plenty ways I'm stuck in my teenage years. Most of us are to some extent. But to be stuck there through WWE just feels weird and juvenile on another level.
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I mean, I can't speak to why some adults like WWE because hell, I'm not sure some folks realize it's fake. I do however think about something my wife told me a few years ago.

She's a social worker. She's done everything from intense residential for troubled teens(translation: kids throw benches at your head and occasionally stab your coworker to death) to women's emergency shelter(cops occasionally help their buddies find where their battered wife is staying). I would gently rib her about watching things like Love after Lockup or 90 Day Fiancé or Love Island kind of stuff. One time, she told me that in her line of work, she just wants to come home and watch something stupid and unwind. Watch shows whose stars'/contestants' choices make her feel infinitely better about her own life. She doesn't wanna watch the news, or sad Italian movies with subtitles or BBC mini-series about toxic masculinity.

I spend my day teaching mostly motivated adults and laughing every 5 minutes. I generally feel better about myself and the world by the time I finish work(I also teach online and have no commute). Maybe if I was in my wife's position, I'd come home and watch 2+ grotesquely ripped men pretend to beat the crap out of each other.
 
fishonjazz said:
It will be easy for me.
I don't get sentimental when people I have never met die.

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Just to clarify, there are exceptions to this. I do get sentimental when kids die in a school shooting or people in gaza are starving to death or when a texas flood kills hundreds of people or when a tsunami wipes out hundreds of thousands etc. There are many times when people I have never met die and it saddens me greatly.

Just not when old celebrities die cause they are old. That doesn't make me sad.
 
prodigy said:
Yeah his son is a POS. Even after this he still got a DUI a year or so ago. And there is body cam footage of the Hulkster showing up to meet with cops and bail his dumb *** son out who can only tell the cops that he is his son.

Anyways yeah Hogan was pretty big back in the day, perhaps the best example I can think of him randomly showing up in the Gremlins sequel. It was one of those scenes that if you saw as a kid you'll forever remember it.

View: https://youtu.be/SCk5XnxI46U?si=cOIlu6cbLcpIBcpO
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To be fair this happens with tons of kids who grow up rich and being told that having money means you can do whatever you want. You know like grab women by the *****. It's such a bad way to grow up for so many kids of celebrities and the rich in general. So when you can have whatever you want whenever you want it, how do you get the next dopamine hit? It's never long before alcohol and drugs come into play. And frankly I blame the parents and what they are giving and teaching their kids.

Don't get me wrong, he is still a piece of **** and he owns his behavior, but it took a ****ed up family dynamic to get him there.
 
fishonjazz said:
Just to clarify, there are exceptions to this. I do get sentimental when kids die in a school shooting or people in gaza are starving to death or when a texas flood kills hundreds of people or when a tsunami wipes out hundreds of thousands etc. There are many times when people I have never met die and it saddens me greatly.

Just not when old celebrities die cause they are old. That doesn't make me sad.
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I think for most people this is more of an extension of nostalgia than any kind of actual grieving.
 
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