hopefully they can move his contract for someone in the offseason, or at the trade deadline next year. If not, they probably buy him out sometime next year. Nobody was going to take on his contract though.
The Ringer: The Nuggets and Jazz Are Ready to Make Their Cases As Contenders
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NAOS
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There were several dudes acquired for 2nds, brough. Cmon now.
How were the Jazz going to match the contracts... Brough.... Cmon now....
I cannot be convinced that there wasn’t at least one move that would’ve substantially improved this season’s team, next season’s options, or both.
NAOS
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With one of their outgoing players who matched the contract of the incoming player.
OK, what player was coming in that made the Jazz better, and who did the Jazz have they were trading to match that contract, Genius?
There’s a thread about this.
The Jazz have - I believe - all of their own 2nd rounders. Two got them Clarkson. There are teams that will have cap space that can’t reasonably hope to get to 90% of the cap that would do well to rent it and pick up an asset (Like a 2nd rounder). Furthermore, there are teams that may want Davis because he was good for them in previous stints.
If there’s anything I’ve learned watching the trade market in the NBA, it’s that there is almost always a suitor for the right price.
Also, TB is a decent player with some shine on paper.
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So you can't give me one example off the top of your head? I'm not going to sift through a thread with 100+ pages talking about a bunch of crap for this. Jazz made their big trade in Clarkson, and they didn't have much ammo after that. They can't just go to teams and ask them to trade good assets for nothing because they ask nicely. Teams aren't going to take on Ed Davis 1.5 years out of the goodness of their hearts.
NAOS
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The thread isn’t full of crap if it happens to contain several answers to your query. You can make demands on me if you want—that’s cool—but it has nothing to do with the Utah Jazz and their situation.
Glen Robinson III generated a lot of discussion, and was acquired pretty damn cheaply
I will never understand the assumption that because we didn’t makes moves, then that means there were no moves to be made. I mean, I don’t expect home runs like Exum for Clarkson, but just to use that as an example, if the FO persisted in their irrational hope for Dante and said no, we would never know about it, and we’d be saying that no moves could be made.
Granted, there’s very little insight we get on the outside looking in, but if you listen to things like John Hollinger interview about his time as an executive around the trade deadline, he details the level of activity they have in conversation. You could certainly say that the Jazz FO’s public statements are their poker face, but when they consistently talk about waiting by the phone, and all actions seems to back that up, it makes for a pretty reasonable argument that we are certainly on the much less active end of the league spectrum.
Granted, there’s very little insight we get on the outside looking in, but if you listen to things like John Hollinger interview about his time as an executive around the trade deadline, he details the level of activity they have in conversation. You could certainly say that the Jazz FO’s public statements are their poker face, but when they consistently talk about waiting by the phone, and all actions seems to back that up, it makes for a pretty reasonable argument that we are certainly on the much less active end of the league spectrum.
It was a cost cutting move for GS. Would Jazz have been able to trade without giving Salary back?
Atlanta could’ve been a scenario. New York (they’re trying to have cap in 2021 and this wouldn’t get in the way, they’re also short ‘good guys.’). Portland and Brooklyn could be others. There are a million ways to get to between ~$1 million and $7 million in matching salary.