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fishonjazz said:
Whoa
That chick has to be roided up
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Yeah I can't recall seeing a female that looks similar to that. Ever.


Pretty sure the use of PED's in fightsports is more wide-spread in Brazil. One of those don't ask-don't tell typa things.


Rousey has claimed Cyborg is on Roids many times.
 
PG_AB said:
No. that would never, ever, be sanctioned here so its a moot point - That took place in Japan. One of the ways they've re-popularized the brand(got it back on TV in the states), and made it mainstream was cleaning up rules exactly like that. The UFC was an INCREDIBLE investment for Dana, he certainly had the right vision..

I'm just saying in the UFC, you have the option of lying on your back to avoid stand-up, That doesn't seem like a fair rule for combat, to me, it heavily favors wrestling/grapplers/BJJ fighters, no?

The UFC existed without ****ing weight classes here for quite some time though, I can't figure how thats less dangerous.. Then a rule both fighters are well aware of.

It could result in some really brutal injuries, but lets face it, thats what the people want to see anyways. Brutal kicks to the face are still going to happen... Most UFC fans just want to see carnage, that part that rubs me the wrong way most these days. I like the technical stuff.

s/o to Joe Rogan though, that dude is a GREAT announcer.
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You obviously know a lot more about both of these sports than me. I sometimes watch if it happens to be on TV, but I honestly don't ever remember seeing a match play out anything like you described above.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
You obviously know a lot more about both of these sports than me. I sometimes watch if it happens to be on TV, but I honestly don't ever remember seeing a match play out anything like you described above.
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This isn't the finest example of it, since this is a Pride fight in Japan. But here's the tactic being used(sloppily). I'm sure there's a term for it. Look at about 5:35.Usually when a fighter uses that defense they also put their hands over their ears and elbows out, to protect from a blow to the face

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bad_axxgu2k

(the whole fight was a pathetic effort from Vitor. check the action, or lack there-of after the opening bell..)

It doesn't take place over a whole match in the UFC, It happens though. When a fighter employs the tactic, the standing fighter can just back off and the ref will then stop the action and stand the fighter laying on the ground up. Doesn't happen often, usually its a fighter thats totally out-classed standing up that's brusied/battered/swollen trying to avoid punishment.. Seems like a good way to take a break and catch your breath, I guess, much less dangerous if no kicks or elbows are allowed to rain down on ya.
 
The scales have been tipped, and the money will soon be made. Now, Deontay Wilder and Johann Duhaupas are ready to fight.

Duhaupas is Wilder's second voluntary challenger for the WBC heavyweight championship belt, and the two square off on Saturday at Birmingham's Legacy Arena. Doors open at 4 p.m., with the first fight on the card set for 4:30 p.m.

The NBC Premier Boxing Championships broadcast begins at 7:30 p.m. CT, and continues on NBC Sports Network at 10 p.m. Wilder should be in the ring around 8:30 p.m.

The Tuscaloosa native Wilder (34-0, 33 KO) will make $1.4 million for the fight, the same amount as when he fought Eric Molina on June 13 in Birmingham, a ninth-round knockout. Duhaupas (32-2, 20 KO) will earn $140,000.

Wilder, 6-foot-7, weighed in at 228.6 pounds and the 6-foot-5 Duhaupas, a Frenchman, was 236 pounds.

RELATED: Deontay Wilder's toughest challenge may come from critics who question validity of opponents

"I'm excited to be back home fighting once more," said Wilder, who won the WBC title in January in Las Vegas. "I'm excited for all the fans who are going to be tuning in on NBC. It's going to be a packed-out crowd with the majority of my people there. One of the hardest places to fight is at home since you've got all your family, your friends and people surrounding you and you're almost obligated to put on a great show.

"This is one of the biggest fights of my career and I'm ready. This is the moment I've been waiting for, to defend my title."

https://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/09/wilder_duhaupas_purse_weigh-in.html
 
PG_AB said:
This isn't the finest example of it, since this is a Pride fight in Japan. But here's the tactic being used(sloppily). I'm sure there's a term for it. Look at about 5:35.Usually when a fighter uses that defense they also put their hands over their ears and elbows out, to protect from a blow to the face

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bad_axxgu2k

(the whole fight was a pathetic effort from Vitor. check the action, or lack there-of after the opening bell..)

It doesn't take place over a whole match in the UFC, It happens though. When a fighter employs the tactic, the standing fighter can just back off and the ref will then stop the action and stand the fighter laying on the ground up. Doesn't happen often, usually its a fighter thats totally out-classed standing up that's brusied/battered/swollen trying to avoid punishment.. Seems like a good way to take a break and catch your breath, I guess, much less dangerous if no kicks or elbows are allowed to rain down on ya.
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That was weird. It seems like the ref should just stand them back up (which he did a few times). The guy on the ground was absorbing ridiculous punishment but he kept laying back down. I think his legs must have been killing him. It was probably time for him to just tap out even without being submitted because laying down like that was certainly not going to win the fight.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
That was weird. It seems like the ref should just stand them back up (which he did a few times). The guy on the ground was absorbing ridiculous punishment but he kept laying back down. I think his legs must have been killing him. It was probably time for him to just tap out even without being submitted because laying down like that was certainly not going to win the fight.
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I don't know what kind of tactic in boxing could possibly be as lame or sheepish as that. But yeah, terrible performance by Vitor. In an outside the of the ring combat situation that technique has little to no applicable use - UNLESS your receiving a beatdown..

Its not far off from the fetal position + trying to create space, right?

Stomps and baseball slides to the head and live American TV audiences are probably not things that mix well.. I'm not advocating that. There was no rule to prevent that stuff in Pride though(which the UFC bought in '07).

Still - rules and situations like that dilute the whole 'MMA is more useful' argument to me..(not that i really care, I just see it for what it is - a sport with rules)

I ask those people how many streetfights have you been in recently?.. ? the answer should be none. especially if their hands are basically deadly weapons. (different for chicks obviously, of if you live in a war torn area, or the hood).


I like boxing better, but a good fight is a good fight. I'm definitely not any sort of elitist. Vitor also had 1 professional boxing fight, in brazil. He probably wouldn't have been a great boxer though..

Fighting a professional or amateur boxer on the street is not a much worse proposition than than fighting a professional or amateur MMA fighter on the street, obviously.
 
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Main event up next. Wilder(34-0 33ko's)SHOULD end this quick. Championship Heavyweight Boxing on Primetime(NBC). What a time to be alive.
 
Povetkin(6'2") would whoop Wilder(6'7") no wonder he's hiding. Defense is just too ****ty. He's accurate with those powershots though.


Duhaupas has a hell of a chin though. I think this ends in the 8th rd. He's taking a ton of damage.
 
11th round stoppage, he didn't knock him off his feet once though. Tough French fighter. Good fight. It slowed a bit in the 8th but Wilder had it in control by then. his defense looked suspect.. Deals a ton of damage though, even on deflected blows.
 
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Main: Carlos Ivan Velasquez vs. Javier Fortuna
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Tonight!
Pearl at Palms Casino Resort in Las Vegas
9pm ET Fox Sports 1
 
PG_AB said:
Sad news in the boxing world today - Roy Jones found a fight in Russia. It could potentially be for a belt too. I certainly won't be watching.

Dunno If y'all saw the story a few weeks back. He flew to Moscow for a face-to-face with Putin, who granted him Russian Citizenship.
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Sad indeed. What are his finances right now?
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=5&v=JaI4w1qW0bc

Some highlights from Khabib Allakhverdiev(19-1 9ko's) His only loss was a UD his last fight to Jesse Vargas, I'll post highlights of that below.
 
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