Domino
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From certain angles, Will looks like Harvey Specter.
Yeah I just got done watching suits and I kept noticing how much they look alike I think it depends on the angle
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From certain angles, Will looks like Harvey Specter.
He doesn'tFrom certain angles, Will looks like Harvey Specter.
I think Steph and kawhi are top 5 players#1 As a "requirement" is not true. (See: 22 Warriors, 19 Raptors, 14 Spurs)
#2 most champions have the one to complement their star, not 2.
#3 depends on what "very good" means. I wouldn't say last year's Jeff Green was a very good rotation player, or Donte DeVicenzo in 22, or Grayson Allen, Dwight Howard etc.).
No. The goal is to win a championship. That’s the directive Smith gave to Ainge. That means things like trading your two All-Star players for a boatload of assets.
A championship requires:
1. A superstar player. (Top 5)
2. 1-2 All-Star level complements.
3. 6 very good rotation players.
4. Luck
Of the above, we only have #2 in place. We have the assets to trade for #1 when opportunity knocks. Until then, they’re solving #3 through the draft and value plays, which is exactly what they should be doing.
You can rage about the trees, but thankfully our front office is birds-eyeing the forest.
Sure, that's probly it...Somethings are more easily known. L
We locked up our money for three years in a CD at 1%. Guaranteed return. Free money.Was gonna start a thread on John Collins but decided it wasn't quite worth its own thread. Dude has played solid individually... well at least his stats look good (in particular 3 point percentage) but its really not working for the team on court. He has the worst on/off differential of anyone on the team.
The guy doesn't pass the ball well which I think hurts us more than other teams since we lack passing. His defense seems solid at times. His rebounding seems helpful. But what is going on with the guy? Maybe the on/off is fluky and he's played the most minutes of anyone on the team... its just kinda weird.
I also looked at what teams I think would trade for him and kinda was drawing a blank. So individually I'd say his value is higher but not sure he is movable for anything worthwhile. We can be patient with him but I just wonder what trades you think would be out there for him? If we want to make a splash in FA we kinda need to move him or Sexton so we have enough $$$ to renegotiate and sign Lauri.
I just don't know if there is something he is doing that makes it not work, but our first order of business when Jordan/Lauri are healthy should be seeing if Collins/Lauri/Kessler works. Thus far it has been a -21 per 100... which is real bad. It was only played when we had THT in the starting lineup and JC was missing everything.We locked up our money for three years in a CD at 1%. Guaranteed return. Free money.
Was gonna start a thread on John Collins but decided it wasn't quite worth its own thread. Dude has played solid individually... well at least his stats look good (in particular 3 point percentage) but its really not working for the team on court. He has the worst on/off differential of anyone on the team.
The guy doesn't pass the ball well which I think hurts us more than other teams since we lack passing. His defense seems solid at times. His rebounding seems helpful. But what is going on with the guy? Maybe the on/off is fluky and he's played the most minutes of anyone on the team... its just kinda weird.
I also looked at what teams I think would trade for him and kinda was drawing a blank. So individually I'd say his value is higher but not sure he is movable for anything worthwhile. We can be patient with him but I just wonder what trades you think would be out there for him? If we want to make a splash in FA we kinda need to move him or Sexton so we have enough $$$ to renegotiate and sign Lauri.
Numerous things require no foresight. For instance:I just don't know if there is something he is doing that makes it not work, but our first order of business when Jordan/Lauri are healthy should be seeing if Collins/Lauri/Kessler works. Thus far it has been a -21 per 100... which is real bad. It was only played when we had THT in the starting lineup and JC was missing everything.
Looking at the on/off stuff I think the Collins issue is we are so bad with him on defense when he is the center and we've been forced into more of that than we'd like. Kessler also played so bad most games to start the season that I don't think we got a fair look.
The on/off stuff was interesting. Key is really negative right now. Makes sense as he is a rookie and we've played him a lot without Lauri in the starting lineup. Dunn's defensive +- is big which makes sense since the guards are so bad on defense. He hurts the offense though. THT and Sexton are more positive than we'd likely think. Ochai also seems to be impacting defense. He has doubled his stocks per minute and increased rebounding. So is doing more. If he can shoot outside of dunks and corner threes we might be on to something.
Not enjoying the John Collins fit at all. If the collective team were better and he could be a rotational piece to impact winning, great. But I don't see where or how he is a long-term piece and he clearly does not fit our development timeline.
Yeah… 1+2=3?Numerous things require no foresight. For instance:
1. THT isn’t good.
2. The Collins deal isn’t good.
And coming soon… 3. No amount of bargain makes a LaVine deal good.
Fit is why almost everyone who didn't like the trade, didn't like the trade.Not enjoying the John Collins fit at all. If the collective team were better and he could be a rotational piece to impact winning, great. But I don't see where or how he is a long-term piece and he clearly does not fit our development timeline.
That’s what I’m saying… the math ain’t mathing.Fit is why almost everyone who didn't like the trade, didn't like the trade.
I didn't like the trade when it happened
Yet as I watch the games I really like Collins. Yet he doesn't fit still. It's weird
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I think you hit most of the points well here.Collins' defense and rebounding are nice. The spot-up shooting seems to be working okay. But on a real contending team, he's likely a 3rd or 4th starter rather than a priority.
The main problem the Jazz are struggling with is their lack of on-ball creation and lack of ball movers. Clarkson and Keyonte are about the only two players in the rotation that both dribble and pass the ball. Everyone else--from Lauri, to Walker, to Ochai, to Collins--needs to be put in positions to score where they don't need to take more than one or two dribbles. (Sexton, THT and Fontecchio can create for themselves, but they're not really ball movers.) Then the problem with Clarkson and Keyonte is that they're below-average defenders who get blown by on the perimeter.
If the Jazz don't play Clarkson and Keyonte, the ball doesn't move on offense. If the Jazz do play Clarkson and Keyonte, then their defense is bottom-tier. When Kessler was out with his injury and the Jazz weren't playing a true center, this became pretty obvious. So now the Jazz have decided to consistently play one of Yurtseven or Kessler to shore up the interior defense when our guards get blown by.
Long story shortish -- Collins would look better on a team with better ball movement. His role should be like Aaron Gordon's on the Nuggets. He just doesn't have a guy like Jokic diming him and making him look good.
Hardy can explore yurt as a post up facilitator. Last game he did this and found sexton under the rim for easy 2 it was nice. We can’t always rely on guard play coz when they attempt more pass, there’s more turnovers. collins i think he’s a luxury we can do with or without. When he gets punished by bigger guys it’s torture. Like he shrinks. He’s consistent tho he can reboundCollins' defense and rebounding are nice. The spot-up shooting seems to be working okay. But on a real contending team, he's likely a 3rd or 4th starter rather than a priority.
The main problem the Jazz are struggling with is their lack of on-ball creation and lack of ball movers. Clarkson and Keyonte are about the only two players in the rotation that both dribble and pass the ball. Everyone else--from Lauri, to Walker, to Ochai, to Collins--needs to be put in positions to score where they don't need to take more than one or two dribbles. (Sexton, THT and Fontecchio can create for themselves, but they're not really ball movers.) Then the problem with Clarkson and Keyonte is that they're below-average defenders who get blown by on the perimeter.
If the Jazz don't play Clarkson and Keyonte, the ball doesn't move on offense. If the Jazz do play Clarkson and Keyonte, then their defense is bottom-tier. When Kessler was out with his injury and the Jazz weren't playing a true center, this became pretty obvious. So now the Jazz have decided to consistently play one of Yurtseven or Kessler to shore up the interior defense when our guards get blown by.
Long story shortish -- Collins would look better on a team with better ball movement. His role should be like Aaron Gordon's on the Nuggets. He just doesn't have a guy like Jokic diming him and making him look good.