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These Jazz Practices Are Making Me Excited.

b_line said:
Another thing that will add to the scape-goat talk this year is that a lot of our players will have inflated numbers due to the fact that we are going to have a lot more possessions than last year. I imagine the team under quin will play super fast like d'antoni teams, but add in defense.

If hayward comes out and averages 20, 6 and 6, he might only be slightly improved, but will look a ton better just because of the higher averages. Same with alec. I don't think we have superstar talent (possibly excluding Dante) on this team yet, but they might look really good in Quins system.
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If you're a ****ty team I'd rather play with a bit of pace as opposed to grinding it out with a TON of ugly possessions like the last few years.
 
Locke does a really good description of what went on in the practices so far here and a bit about how Quin conducts his practices.


Some pretty good insight if you haven't already watched/listened. Start at about 7.50min for the stuff about practices.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yzJRTGQPn8&list=TLM6XZB2YXWEquWzD-5p8mLR3oeDqK9G_s
 
GVC said:
1. To the bolded: Al improved as an all-around player under Corbin. He was terrible in the (roughly) 50 games he played under Sloan (with Deron).

2. Neither Paul nor Al played noticeably better last season than they did under Corbin.
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I disagree. First, are you saying that Corbin is a better coach than Clifford and Budenholzer? I don't think you are, but your comments lead to that conclusion. Clifford coached a 28 win Hornets team to a 43-39 record, turned them into one of the best defensive teams in the NBA, with Al Jefferson as the main scorer. You could try to argue that Corbin is better than Bud. His WL record is similar to Corbins. But if you watched the Hawks play last season you know he's a better coach.

That being said, you're wrong about both players performances last season. They were noticeably and statistically one of their best seasons. Al had one of the best statistical seasons he's ever had, averaging 21 and 10. If you watched him last season, I never saw him play like that in Utah. Plus he played on one of the best defensive teams in the NBA, something the Jazz never even sniffed. We all know Al's defensive rep here and around the league. As for his Sloan 1/2 year. How can you count that considering the circumstances? I'll give you his improved passing, but thats it. You have to credit his new coach for this improvement, and give some credence to Corbin's inept coaching to his lack luster performance, especially defensively, here.

Paul was an All Star, granted in the East. But he put up 17.9 (18) pts, 8.5 rebs, and 3 asst. All career highs, outside of rebs (his high is 8.6). He was better last season than any other with the Jazz. Period. Paul is a good player, but you have to give credit where it's due. He was put in a position to succeed, and his coach can take a lot of credit there.

Coaching matters, especially when players are young. I would say Corbin's short comings hurt out young players even more than the vets, who obviously struggled more under Corbin. His scheme was obviously flawed and he wasn't able to execute his plan. He had questionable relationships with the players, notably Hayward. He was a bad coach, and bad coaches fail.

If I'm wrong, lets hear it with more than conjecture.
 
GVC said:
1. I think it's fair to say that the quality of their play was last season was easily in the same ball park as it was under Corbin. Millsap was used differently, sure, but much of that is due to roster differences. The Jazz were better under Corbin than the Hawks were last season.

2. Even if they did improve, it's awfully tough to disentangle the effect of the coaching change from improvements made by the player in the offseason independent of coaching. Millsap in particular has added little things to his game every offseason.

I've just noticed this sentiment a lot on this board, and don't think it's accurate. I get that people want to believe that the young players remaining on the team were held back by Corbin, and that their elite talent will finally present itself now that Ty is gone, but I think it's just wishful thinking. The Jazz still need a lot more talent.
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How many games did Corbin coach without Al or Paul, cause the Hawk lost Horford early. If Corbin lost Al or Paul for an entire season the Jazz would win 30 games.

You're are not giving enough credit to coaching. Implementing schemes to put players in a position to succeed is their job and it plays a big role.

You're denial smells like Corbin apologetics. He was a poor head coach.
 
Realistically no one has a single ****ing clue what to expect. And in some ways that's really exciting and in some ways that's scary as ****.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];908747 said:
The focus on "pace" is awesome. But, when I look at Trey and Enes, I see two guys who will struggle to make an impact within that concept. Booker and Exum better get ready.

I wonder if we'll see much of Alec and Gordon at the 1 and 2? "Pace" plays right into their strengths.
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MDAV28 said:
What makes you think it would be a problem for Enes? I think he gets down the floor pretty well and is well conditioned.
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I agree. Kanter seemed to get up an down better than any other true bug in the team last year.
 
spycam1 said:
Kanter gonna ball this season. Let's be real.
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This year's gonna be fun to watch for sure. Seems like Lindsey has given Quin the 'green light' to just experiment with guys and see what our young guys have to offer. Kanter being allowed to put up 3's is a testament to this.


I truly think we'll see some crazy things we've never imagined would be thrown on the floor with the Jazz!!!


Go Jazz!!!!
 
Following on from that - we could see:


- Kanter shooting 3's, commentator calling it 'Kanter is MONEY!!!!!'

- Favors making 'Kevin Love' crazy passes

- Burks rim rattling dunking highlight reel

- Burke to Evans alleyoop dunking highlight reel

- Exum passing exhibition/clinic that is so infectious the whole team is copying & doing it also

- Hayward turning into Pete Maravich lite on fast breaks

- Gobert 30 min. game, averaging 3 blocks per game !!!
 
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