Obama is nothing if he is not totally committed to "winning" for his "team", and in fact there are plenty of government employees who wouldn't blanch about doing all they possibly can to help, too. I think I can stand by my assertion that Obama does use his position like I said, but he really hardly needs to. . . . so many people in government today have the idea it is in fact a virtue if they use every possible bit of information/influence/power they can to build up the new ubergovernment. It's a "cause" worth working for.
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Obama is nothing if he is not totally committed to "winning" for his "team", and in fact there are plenty of government employees who wouldn't blanch about doing all they possibly can to help, too. I think I can stand by my assertion that Obama does use his position like I said, but he really hardly needs to. . . . so many people in government today have the idea it is in fact a virtue if they use every possible bit of information/influence/power they can to build up the new ubergovernment. It's a "cause" worth working for.
https://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillance
I am glad there are people like him
I am glad there are people like him
DutchJazzer
Banned
every American who does not mind what the government is doing should gtfo and go to a 3rd world country and take that punk Obama with you.
because this is unamerican.
hate on me all you want. send me neg rep. send me a pm. or give me an infraction.
this **** is ridiculous.
not only are they spying on americans but on people worldwide. obama gtfo
because this is unamerican.
hate on me all you want. send me neg rep. send me a pm. or give me an infraction.
this **** is ridiculous.
not only are they spying on americans but on people worldwide. obama gtfo
DutchJazzer
Banned
but if he gets captured and put to dead we will see how many will rise up to fight for him.
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MoreFeasts
Member
I see many government employees who are anti-Obama, or anti-Democrat,
After what happened to Bradley Manning, I don't blame him.
I think there is a time and place that could, and should, open a whistle blower to criminal charges. Did Manning's admissions endanger troops in the field or other American servicemen( FBI, CIA...)?
To my knowledge, none of them revealed current activities.
Then did it pertain to ongoing investigations or something similar.
Basically, just becasue you blew the whistle on something should not automatically give you a protected status. I do not know enough about the Manning case to say if he should or should not be protected.
I do not think the guy that blew the whistle on the NSA should face any reprisals.
MoreFeasts
Member
"the National Security Agency's massive data gathering operations, the agency is putting the finishing touches on its biggest data farm yet. The gargantuan $1.2 billion complex at a National Guard base 26 miles south of Salt Lake City features 1.5 million square feet of top secret space. High-performance NSA computers alone will fill up 100,000 square feet..."
DutchJazzer
Banned
to those unamerican ******** hwho say they have nothing to hide and such.
will you buy the new xbox one?
if so did you know it has a kinect, and nsa takes **** from microsoft servers.
do you know how kinect works.
basically the xbox one needs to connect to internet once every 24 hours.
so tell me this would you be ok that nsa can peak in your home anytime they well damm please. living room/bedroom/mancave or wherever you put your nsa gaming/spying device.
good luck with that
**** AMERICA
will you buy the new xbox one?
if so did you know it has a kinect, and nsa takes **** from microsoft servers.
do you know how kinect works.
basically the xbox one needs to connect to internet once every 24 hours.
so tell me this would you be ok that nsa can peak in your home anytime they well damm please. living room/bedroom/mancave or wherever you put your nsa gaming/spying device.
good luck with that
**** AMERICA
PearlWatson
Well-Known Member
The sad thing is that Dutch ain't saying anything against America that Obama's black church preacher hasn't said for the last 20 years or so.
Hell, it is probably the liberal church prayer up on capital hill.
What do you think oil is? It is the engine of our freedom and way of life. It is in everyone's interest that we keep the black gold flowing.
Hell, it is probably the liberal church prayer up on capital hill.
What do you think oil is? It is the engine of our freedom and way of life. It is in everyone's interest that we keep the black gold flowing.
Couldn't agree more. The Gov't has been spying on its citizen way before technology became an issue. Technology has just made it easier to do.
You mean like when Dick Cheney outed Valerie Plume or when Fox News outed the Seal 6 Navy seal who killed Osama.
Archie Moses
Well-Known Member
The government can listen to any of my calls they'd like, read my texts (even the sexy picture ones), and follow me on the gps for all I care.
Signed,
Average-pretty-vanilla-American-guy aka Skinny Iranian
Signed,
Average-pretty-vanilla-American-guy aka Skinny Iranian
DutchJazzer
Banned
thats exactly unpatriotic and unamerican of you.
you dont deserve american freedom and rights
you punk.
Archie Moses
Well-Known Member
Don't tell me what's American and what's not, legitimate non-American.
The Thriller
Well-Known Member
spying is only ok if a white repub is in office. Otherwise, it's bad.
What's funny, is that the NSA was blasted after 9/11 for not being more aggressive. LOL. If the Golden Gate Bridge or Wall Street were blown up tomorrow by terrorists, the same people wearing their tea party clothes and carrying their LIBERTY OR DIE flags bitching about the NSA spying on us would be bitching about Obama and how the government didn't protect us. Obama should have lost his patience like 5 years ago and told the GOP to go to hell. He should have gone George W all over their asses and stuffed the single payer system, tax increases on the rich, and steep regulations on wall street down Congress's throats. "You're either with us or against us" to unify his own party and to clearly isolate the GOP against the will of the American people.
It's just so sad that the GOP still plays this game better than the Democrats despite not having a solid piece of legislation proposed in over a decade.
It's not 1776 anymore. Lets come to grips with global terrorism and understand that spying will and should occur.
What's funny, is that the NSA was blasted after 9/11 for not being more aggressive. LOL. If the Golden Gate Bridge or Wall Street were blown up tomorrow by terrorists, the same people wearing their tea party clothes and carrying their LIBERTY OR DIE flags bitching about the NSA spying on us would be bitching about Obama and how the government didn't protect us. Obama should have lost his patience like 5 years ago and told the GOP to go to hell. He should have gone George W all over their asses and stuffed the single payer system, tax increases on the rich, and steep regulations on wall street down Congress's throats. "You're either with us or against us" to unify his own party and to clearly isolate the GOP against the will of the American people.
It's just so sad that the GOP still plays this game better than the Democrats despite not having a solid piece of legislation proposed in over a decade.
It's not 1776 anymore. Lets come to grips with global terrorism and understand that spying will and should occur.
What's your point here? That because Dick Cheney and Fox News did it everyone should be able to do it? Or, is it just a way of telling Stoked to shut up since "his side" has done the same?
Hopefully you can see how destructive this sort of logic is.