Through Jesus, I am defined by being God's child.
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Jerry Lundegaard
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Through biology, I am defined as my mother and father's child. A dynamic entity capable of genetically limited actions that may or may not be great and beautiful depending on circumstances.
I would too, but it will never happen. It can't.
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That was seriously deep. Who did you copy it from?
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The negative of any logical proposition is inherently more difficult to prove than the positive. To prove the positive existence of God, we only need to compel Him to show up and prove his Identity. To prove He doesn't exist would mean we have to traverse the entire universe in all dimensions, looking for all entities that could by any stretch of the imagination fit any of our imagined contructions of the concept "God". But still, "can't be done" has generally been proven wrong in human experience, as once we know enough about a proposed project to say that, our imaginations as a virtually infinite set of human beings combine with the power of statistical mechanics with the result that someone does it, though in a previously unconceived manner. . . . .
So the flying spaghetti monster exists!!!
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Have you been touched by his noodly appendage? It is something you will never forget.
again.
well I meant to pos rep this even if I disagree on purely philosophical terms.....
so why would God then put us on terms of needing to choose to love Him on pure faith since we can't just see him and read his daily journal. . . .
sure a lot of religious folks see the evil in the casinos and slots and card games. . . the squandering of much needed limited income, the starving kids and neglected spouses and ruined lives. . . .
but farmers have to gamble too. . . .even businessmen. . . . even politicians. . . . and even ordinary motorists defensively wending their way down our roads. . . . in practically everything we do.
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As a practicing mormon, I'm not offended by that statement. I can respect that others believe differently than I. I try no to judge people by their religious/non religious beliefs. But I don't think it's unreasonable for me to expect others top show similar respect for my beliefs.
I understand that some of it might not make sense. To be perfectly honest, the "blacks and the priesthood" thing still puzzles me. I am probably a bad mormon for saying so, but I think modern prophets are as fallible as the rest of us. They have pure intentions, IMO, but at the end of the day they are still men. And they will answer for their actions, just like anyone else. I personally don't think that was an inspired decision. But I don't know, and am eager to find out, someday.
The biggest problem I see is that we try to quantify God within the boundaries of our own understanding. We know a lot about the world around us, but very little in the grand scheme of things. To illustrate: regarding the question of the creation of the universe - God or no God, where did that matter come from in the first place?
Anyway, that's my .02
If I were Thee God, I would prefer to make my universe with math and science rather than just by pointing my finger and going, "ZAP!". The more I read about astronomy, the more plausible a supreme being seems to me. The book, "Mormon Scientist: The Life and Faith of Henry Eyring" is awesome, and I recommend it to any Mo' who has questions.
I totally believe that God uses science. I also believe that He is God because He knows how it all works. We are not gods because we are still figuring it all out. God's use of science may seem like magic to us, but it is because of the limits of our understanding. Like some sort of lost aboriginal that sees an airplane in the sky for the first time - it must be magic or supernatural. As recently as the 19th century, basic radio communication would have been looked at as magic.