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Tibor Pleiss Coming to the Jazz Soon?

Laramie said:
Thunder fans didn't realize that OKC GM Sam Presti had given up our overseas stash. His recent stats in Spain has declined; however this kid is ready for the NBA. Good Luck Jazz community. OKC's lost is your gain.

Hated to see us give up this gem...
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Hope you are right, but you often have guys who star in Europe and come over and do nothing in the NBA and our out in a year or two.
 
I'm guessing basketball is bigger in Turkey then Australia just a guess though.
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And I am guessing this is not so. Have been in Turkey and talked to a few of the Turkish citizens in Ankara and Istanbul. They barely were aware of basketball and were completely into Futbol. Never been around Australians (here or There) but reports seem to indicate basketball is fairly popular in Austaralia. The Turkish people treat basketball much as Americans treated soccer twenty or thirty years ago.
 
ONE LOVE said:
What, so we're bringing over BOTH Tomic and Pleiss???? How does that make any sense????
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We are not. According to trade rumors, Barcelona are trying to get trade Pleiss for Mbakwe and add Marjanovic in the summer. So that would mean Pleiss is not coming, and Tomic will be available and can possibly make the move to the NBA.
 
Grandpa Jazz said:
And I am guessing this is not so. Have been in Turkey and talked to a few of the Turkish citizens in Ankara and Istanbul. They barely were aware of basketball and were completely into Futbol. Never been around Australians (here or There) but reports seem to indicate basketball is fairly popular in Austaralia. The Turkish people treat basketball much as Americans treated soccer twenty or thirty years ago.
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Istanbul in particular has some of the best teams in Europe in basketball so clearly there is a large amount of bball fans in Turkey.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
**** Tomic for being a little bitch and staying over there. Welcome, T-Bone. Kick some ***.
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I think it's the logical thing to choose Barça over Jazz. But if I were him, I'd have dreams of making it to the NBA and join the Jazz right away so I can also organize a nite-out with some jazzfanzers.
 
stitches said:
We are not. According to trade rumors, Barcelona are trying to get trade Pleiss for Mbakwe and add Marjanovic in the summer. So that would mean Pleiss is not coming, and Tomic will be available and can possibly make the move to the NBA.
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If that's true that makes no sense to me... If Tomic as planning on coming over & DL should have been kept in the loop. He should have also done his homework about the availability of Pleiss and whether he is at risk of being traded. If those are true, why would we have just gone out and gotten the right to Pleiss in the Kanter trade? Couldn't we have just gotten Tomic and asked for another piece from OKC?


The only way this makes sense is if DL knows Tomic has no intention of coming over (or doesn't like him as a player), and is more interested in Pleiss, hence getting the right for him.
 
A scouting report on Pleiss by Rafael Uehara from last August:

https://basketballscouting.wordpress.com/2014/08/01/tibor-pleiss-scouting-report/

Tibor Pleiss Scouting Report

Tibor Pleiss has always been an interesting player due to his physical profile. Standing at seven-foot-two and currently listed at 269 pounds, the German center has very decent mobility for his size.

By age 24, that has translated best on his ability to finish out of the pick-and-roll, where he excels at an elite level. Pleiss is a good screener who looks to draw contact and whose large frame makes it difficult for defenders to navigate around his picks. He dives to the basket very fluidly, has soft hands to catch the ball on the move, is able to score through contact and can play above the rim as a target for lobs (25% of his points from the field in the Spanish league were off dunks). Pleiss ranked second in the Euroleague in scoring at the rim, finishing his 125 attempts at a 66.4% clip but while averaging 9.2 points at the basket per 28 minutes played.

His post game is merely average at this point. Pleiss can establish deep position with his back to the basket due to his wide body, move most defenders with the stength in his core and draw fouls at a high rate but is mechanical with his go-to move (a hook over his left shoulder after two dribbles), hasn’t developed passing instincts and has decent but not great touch to finish when forced to do so outside of three feet from the basket. Pleiss shot just 35.2% on 71 attempts away from the rim in 23 Euroleague appearances, though he did hit his 204 free throw attempts in 1,284 total minutes at a very satisfying 83.3% clip.

Pleiss finished 26% of Laboral Kutxa’s possessions with a shot, free throw or turnover – a very high usage rate among centers. That helps explain why he wasn’t a really strong factor on the glass, posting average offensive rebounding rates and ranking outside the top 10 in both leagues. Pleiss is no menace generating second chances but had been more of a presence in previous years. He is a difficult body to box out when he engages to fight for position, can get off the ground despite his size and reach the ball at a higher point than the average center in the European game. Baskonia scored at a higher per possession rate with him on the floor in both leagues.

Because of his mobility, Sergio Scariolo attempted using Pleiss to hedge-and-recover on the pick-and-roll. That didn’t lead to good results against the highest level of competition. Baskonia allowed over 107 points per possessions with him in the game in both leagues. Though he moves more fluidly than expected for his size, Pleiss isn’t particularly comfortable guarding in space, as few big men really are. He is probably best suited for a scheme that has him defending the pick-and-roll flat, limiting the range he is forced to cover and leveraging his size to protect the lane. As a result of being asked to go way high into the perimeter, his defensive rebounding rate also dropped under Scariolo.

Editor’s Note: Statistical data for this post was researched at in-the-game.org, basketball.realgm.com , ACB.com and baloncestostatsacb.es
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