To Those That Attack Me For My Beliefs

[bigb]

I have a hard time believing you are living the life you want to if your church wasnt true. But thats good you do what you want to do. There are certainly some positives in following a religion, but there are also some negatives as well. I am happy for people to follow their beliefs as long as they are okay with me doing the same.

For me there is nothing gained by believing in God or following a religion. For me I feel far more happy and enjoy my life a lot more not being religious than I did when I was. I didnt expect that. But everyone is different.

We’ve met like once or twice. I guess that’s enough for you to form an opinion on how I want to live my life vs how I’m living it.
It’s no secret I’m LDS. As I sit and think about the stuff the LDS church prohibits, I can’t think of anything I’d do that I don’t already. When I tried smoking, I didn’t like it. Don’t really like drinking. I’ve tasted a couple of the beers Gameface has brewed. Let’s just say it’s a taste I haven’t acquired. Dislike the taste of coffee. I have zero interest in cheating on my wife. Don’t want to chew tobacco. Not interested in drugs. What else?


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[Ron Mexico]

We’ve met like once or twice. I guess that’s enough for you to form an opinion on how I want to live my life vs how I’m living it.
It’s no secret I’m LDS. As I sit and think about the stuff the LDS church prohibits, I can’t think of anything I’d do that I don’t already. When I tried smoking, I didn’t like it. Don’t really like drinking. Dislike the taste of coffee. I have zero interest in cheating on my wife. Don’t want to chew tobacco. Not interested in drugs. What else?


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Oh, I believe you that you don't particularly want to so anything different now. But had you not been in the religion a long time or were out of it awhile I think some things would change.

There are plenty of things I didn't like the first time that I like now. I am not referring to anything specific with you. I hated beer at first, now it is probably one of my favorite things and I would drink it even if there was no alcohol in it. But there are plenty of things beyond those. Religion shapes people quite a bit. Most LDS people are really really similar. Although I would say you are not one of those.

 

[Archie Moses]

This thread reminds of: This is why I will no longer make game threads thread.

 

[LogGrad98]

In some ways, atheism is the ultimate "I don't know".

Is there a difference between not believing in the existence of a god and full on denying it? I thought agnosticism was the biggest I don't know.

 

[LogGrad98]

I agree and I am skeptical. If I had to put money on it I would bet on no God.

However I have always got the impression from atheists that they know as a fact that there is no god.

For me, an agnostic, I have no idea. Any religion might be right. Or none of them. There might be a God and there might not. I have no clue.
My guess is that when I die that's it. Nothing else happens after. But I don't have a strong belief in that theory. Just a little bit more belief in that than in any religion out there.

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See, this is why I need to read the thread before posting.

In my defense there are 3 pages of utter crap to slog through to get to the good parts.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Oh, I believe you that you don't particularly want to so anything different now. But had you not been in the religion a long time or were out of it awhile I think some things would change.

There are plenty of things I didn't like the first time that I like now. I am not referring to anything specific with you. I hated beer at first, now it is probably one of my favorite things and I would drink it even if there was no alcohol in it. But there are plenty of things beyond those. Religion shapes people quite a bit. Most LDS people are really really similar. Although I would say you are not one of those.

You didn't drink any of the O'Douls at Gameface's last thing.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

I’m not bagging on the non believers here (you’re perfectly entitled to think what you think), but a life not believing in a God and an existence after this sounds depressing to me.
The way I figure is that if I go through life believing in God, and it turns out not to be true, what have I lost?


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For me, it's two things. First, when I figured out Santa Claus, the reaction was yeah, you got us. When I applied similar logic to religion, the reaction was, no, that's the way it is. Second, when I went to private school, when I asked questions during math and science classes, I got explanations. When I asked the same questions in religion class, I got no explanations and that's the way it is.

I can't fathom believing in something that I can't see as anything more than an incredibly elaborate lie. Living THAT sounds depressing to me. Believing in anything omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent sounds depressing to me.

 

[Ron Mexico]

You didn't drink any of the O'Douls at Gameface's last thing.

Haha, those are terrible tasting beers!

True story though. I went to a bachelor party where those were bought for some lds friends. The only person who threw up that night was a lds guy who drank 3 of those, lol.

 

[Zombie]

As Gameface said, you've attacked others with your beliefs. Way too late to walk that back.

If you really are a member of the LDS faith you have learned little in the process. Honestly I'm surprised no one here who is LDS has called you out on this. You bring shame upon your church.

If there really were a just and true god he would strike people like yourself down. Instead babies die by the millions and people like you and Trump continue to live.

I shudder to think that you've had an influence on children as a coach.

I'm 90% sure this guy is just doing a ridiculous interpretation of a strident Mormon. I'd be pretty surprised if he actually practices the LDS faith.

 

[Zombie]

For me, it's two things. First, when I figured out Santa Claus, the reaction was yeah, you got us. When I applied similar logic to religion, the reaction was, no, that's the way it is. Second, when I went to private school, when I asked questions during math and science classes, I got explanations. When I asked the same questions in religion class, I got no explanations and that's the way it is.

I can't fathom believing in something that I can't see as anything more than an incredibly elaborate lie. Living THAT sounds depressing to me. Believing in anything omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent sounds depressing to me.

It's all about perspective and being honest to yourself I think.

I couldn't imagine imagine living a life of faith (well I guess I can, I was a practicing Mormon for the first eighteen years of my life, and it made me miserable). That said, I see the joy it brings my loved ones and I wouldn't ever want to take that from them.

 

[str8line]

While we're on the subject of religion and Trump, you can't be a godly person and support Trump. Sorry but you just can't. That's called living a lie.

 

[fishonjazz]

You didn't drink any of the O'Douls at Gameface's last thing.

That's due to the lack of alcohol I'm sure

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