Tough Day To Be In Law Enforcement

[Archie Moses]

This is a great example of "archie brain." No one here is condoning drunk driving.

When people argue that drunk, passed out people behind the wheel should be called an Uber and checked on for medical attention while also complaining cops shouldn't be involved, it is condoning their behavior.

Read the thread and the definition of codone, dumbass. At least I have a brain.

Call an Uber!

 

[Archie Moses]

You are having a strawman argument. No one here is condoning their behavior. Everyone in this thread including me is saying they should be punished.

So what you are saying is that you hate drunk drivers and want extra punishment to them immediately at the cost of tax payers. Spending a night in jail and being released isnt a punishment for a drunk person. Keeping them in a jail for a night or having them sleep at home is no different but one costs a lot of money and leads to more issues. Both will be punished later. What that punishment is should depend on the evidence. That is a judges job, not the cops. There is a reason we separate those jobs out.

Dude, I'm just not mad if drunk drivers are arrested and locked up for the night. It's insane to me people are even arguing this.

 

[Archie Moses]

That is being extremely drunk if you dont remember for a lot of people. The equivalent of that is driving extremely fast. Both are very dangerous and very stupid.

Nah, that's not the equivalent. Not at all unless you're talking speeding at an insane level.

I'll get in the car of the speeder 100% of the time before someone who's blackout drunk.

It's not equivalent. Not at all.

 

[Archie Moses]

I'm having a really hard time understanding why sending someone home with a court date is less safe than arresting a drunk driver and keeping them overnight in a drunk tank.

Is the fear that they're immediately going to get back into a car and start driving around again? If so then that's really quite dumb.

Says I have an "Archie brain" and no one condones drunk drivers while not capable of understanding why drunk drivers need to be taken off the street and issued a court date.

I must be so simple minded to think this way. My small, bird brain isn't open enough to give drunks behind the wheel a free pass on sleeping it off in their bed.

Gawd damn it.

 

[Archie Moses]

People in this thread mad that drunks get arrested behind the wheel and don't think cops need to be involved. That or cops should babysit them, take them home and issue them a court date because arresting them makes them a victim and things could escalate.

You can't make this **** up.


Gawd damn it.


I have an Archie brain 100%. I'm not the smartest guy and have no problem admitting when I'm wrong. At least I have a ****ing brain though and can think for myself.

 

[Archie Moses]

1) It's safer for the police to avoid confrontations or de-escalate. What if this guy in Atlanta had grabbed the gun instead of the taser?
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What if blackout drunks never drove?

You can point the finger and worry about cops not being safe but I'd bet my life that cops arresting drunk drivers saves more lives, by a vast amount, than bad cops who take lives like George Floyd.

**** drunk drivers just like **** the trigger happy police officers.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Nah, that's not the equivalent. Not at all unless you're talking speeding at an insane level.

I'll get in the car of the speeder 100% of the time before someone who's blackout drunk.

It's not equivalent. Not at all.

I won't get in either. I've seen too many crashes and deaths for either. Both are reckless and terrible. Just like using your cell phone and driving.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Dude, I'm just not mad if drunk drivers are arrested and locked up for the night. It's insane to me people are even arguing this.

I don't think you have any idea what people are arguing to be honest.

Again, everyone here wants drunk drivers punished at least as harsh as they currently are or more than they currently are.

 

[Hekate]

People in this thread mad that drunks get arrested behind the wheel and don't think cops need to be involved. That or cops should babysit them, take them home and issue them a court date because arresting them makes them a victim and things could escalate.

You can't make this **** up.


Gawd damn it.


I have an Archie brain 100%. I'm not the smartest guy and have no problem admitting when I'm wrong. At least I have a ****ing brain though and can think for myself.

You have never answered how many days a drunk driver should spend in jail before court date.

 

[Gameface]

People in this thread mad that drunks get arrested behind the wheel and don't think cops need to be involved. That or cops should babysit them, take them home and issue them a court date because arresting them makes them a victim and things could escalate.

You can't make this **** up.


Gawd damn it.


I have an Archie brain 100%. I'm not the smartest guy and have no problem admitting when I'm wrong. At least I have a ****ing brain though and can think for myself.

It's like you think I've advocated for drunk driving or drunk drivers in this thread.

I haven't.

This has been a confusing conversation for me.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Just gonna leave this here.



BTW, in all the time I worked as an admin, I never saw a teacher rack up more than 3 complaints without termination. Early on as an assistant, we had a cheer coach who was rough on the kids. We got one report during a tour. She got a talking to and a written report. Then during the homecoming game she pulled another outlandish stunt. During halftime then principal relieved her of her duties.

Even regular teachers belonging to a union/association, typically are terminated after 2-3 write ups. In education, the union serves to ensure that administrators follow policy. Unlike law enforcement, the union largely doesn’t exist to control the system, manipulate the public, and protect awful teachers.

There’s always exceptions, but it’s pretty amazing to me the difference between teacher unions and police unions. One is hated by the public yet has very little actual control while the other one up until a few weeks ago was worshipped despite having overwhelming control.

 

[One Brow]

If I'm way drunk and pissed off then that uber driver might just have an unruly passenger on their hands and might need the police again before they get me home.

Agreed, but that's a different danger than that from a drunk driver. It's part of the risk you assume as an Uber driver.