Tough Day To Be In Law Enforcement

[One Brow]

Onebrow, the context matters.

Marx, Engels and every Communist movement since has advocated the abolition of the family because they see it as part of patriarchal oppression of the capitalist system, the family unit also is an impediment to the influence and control of the state.

I am a big believer in context.

So, using modus tollens, since BLM has not advocated for the dissolution of the family, they are not a communist movement?

The fruits of the BLM movement include abolishing the police department in Minneapolis.

The police department i Minneapolis is still standing, and the is nothing in place that will remove it. No such laws, budgets, orders, etc. have been passed. Feel free to check.

They also include the funding cuts and in police departments in Baltimore, New York, Chicago, Ferguson and others. The results have which are a tremendous increase in the number of homicides.

I'm sure you can link to some comparison statistics for that claim, say, comparing Baltimore with St. Louis to see if there is an effect on funding and murder rate. Right? Because if you can't find such an effect, if may be that the police actually don't do as much to prevent murders as some people think.

These neighborhoods now have burnt down black businesses with no hopes of re-opening because now it's not only burnt out, but the police are decreasing their patrols of the neighborhoods so it's too high risk to invest in.

Rebuilding will be slow. Harlem was built slowly, until the government stepped in and the money was drained. Black Wall Street in Tulsa was built slowly, until the riot destroyed it. Rebuilding will happen, and if white people are too scared too invest, black wealth will be built.

A lot of businesses are compromised by the new, and much higher price of insurance that you'd have to purchase and with things going up in smoke every time there is a police action, most outsiders don't want to invest in these communities. And most of the black business people that live there can't afford to now.

Perhaps homicides are up because people are angry and disconnected this year? You know, with the pandemic, increased unemployment, etc.?

 

[Beer]

very good post.

But if the cops did that, they’d receive backlash. Those white and affluent drug dealers would lawyer up and fight. It’s a lot easier to just bust some black or brown person for carrying some weed. They won’t resist. They’ll take the first plea bargain offered.

it’s a win win! Your PD gets to keep the confiscated property taken from the black/brown weed carrier. while your prosecutors get to campaign for higher office as being “tough on crime.” The federal government continues to pump billions into your PD for the war on drugs. And those with ah-hem racial axes to grind get happy seeing POC labeled as felons, unable to vote, ineligible for welfare, and kept into their lowly places.

Bust into the houses of those big pharm CEOs? ****...now you’d really be stepping into it.

I believe Aaron Shamo was arrested during a no knock warrant. No shots fired, no deaths, life in prison.

 

[One Brow]

The majority of warrants like ARE served at night to avoid citizens getting hurt. Why would you come down a street in swat gear at high noon on a police raid for an individual you know probably has guns????? also it’s called tactics, why would the police want the drug dealers to know they are coming? So they can flush the drugs? Give me a break man. Your brain only accepts what it wants.

It was a no-knock warrant. Why not serve it during the day, when Taylor was at work? Then you don't even need guns, just the battering ram.

What evidence did the police have that Taylor had a gun (remember, they were not expecting K. Walker to be there)?

I agree it's tactics. It's the tactic of trying to get a sleepy, confused, scared person to blurt something out that can be used to convict them. that's why they waited until Taylor was asleep.

 

[LogGrad98]

So should police keep killing black people in the streets, or not?

Let's have a big boy talk.

You are just begging to get jazzyfreshed

 

[The Thriller]

This seems relevant. Imagine the outrage if Biden asked antifa or BLM to standby

 

[The Thriller]

Funny. Right wingers on here have been telling us for months that the real threat is BLM and antifa, not right wing terrorists and white supremacists groups.

13 charged in plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer

Thirteen people were charged Thursday in an alleged domestic terrorism plot to kidnap Michigan Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, federal and state officials announced.

www.cnn.com

 

[zyzz]

Funny. Right wingers on here have been telling us for months that the real threat is BLM and antifa, not right wing terrorists and white supremacists groups.

13 charged in plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer

Thirteen people were charged Thursday in an alleged domestic terrorism plot to kidnap Michigan Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, federal and state officials announced.

www.cnn.com

Good thing Trump didn't tweet LIBERATE MICHIGAN. Oh wait...



I hate that they're called a militia and not domestic terrorists in all of these articles. Seems to meet these two criteria

(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or

(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping

 

[Eminence]

Isn't that McVeigh's old crew?

 

[The Thriller]

Isn't that McVeigh's old crew?

Tim McVeigh who?

Forget that group! Remember, the real threat are those ANTIFA guys!

ANTIFA!!!

BE VERY AFRAID!!!

 

[The Thriller]

Good thing Trump didn't tweet LIBERATE MICHIGAN. Oh wait...



I hate that they're called a militia and not domestic terrorists in all of these articles. Seems to meet these two criteria

Excellent points all around. I completely agree, had they been black/brown and/or Muslim, we all know they'd be called terrorists.

 

[The Thriller]

Isn't that McVeigh's old crew?

Isn't it funny how that lil thing has been swept under the rug? The amount of videos and books on that is minimal compared to the Boston Marathon bomber or some of the mass shootings lately.

Why wasn't there a war on terror launched against those guys. They haven't stopped, they've just become more organized and honestly more saturated in law enforcement (police and ICE).

 

[Red]

Fact Sheets on Unlawful Militias for All 50 States Now Available from Georgetown Law’s Institute for Constitutional Advocacy and Protection

www.law.georgetown.edu

As the fact sheets explain, the U.S. Constitution and state laws use the term “militia” to refer to all able-bodied residents between certain ages who may be called forth by the government when there is a specific need; but private individuals have no legal authority to activate themselves for militia duty outside the authority of the federal or state government. The fact sheets also explain that the Second Amendment does not protect private militia activity, pointing to decisions from the U.S. Supreme Court in 1886 and 2008 making clear that the Second Amendment “does not prevent the prohibition of private paramilitary organizations.”

All 50 states prohibit private, unauthorized groups from engaging in activities reserved for the state militia, including law enforcement activities. The fact sheets include these state-specific laws. They also include guidance for what individuals can do if they see what appear to be militia members near a polling place, and direct that they report their observations to the Election Protection helpline at 866-OUR-VOTE (866-687-8683), with which ICAP is coordinating its efforts.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Fact Sheets on Unlawful Militias for All 50 States Now Available from Georgetown Law’s Institute for Constitutional Advocacy and Protection

www.law.georgetown.edu

As the fact sheets explain, the U.S. Constitution and state laws use the term “militia” to refer to all able-bodied residents between certain ages who may be called forth by the government when there is a specific need; but private individuals have no legal authority to activate themselves for militia duty outside the authority of the federal or state government. The fact sheets also explain that the Second Amendment does not protect private militia activity, pointing to decisions from the U.S. Supreme Court in 1886 and 2008 making clear that the Second Amendment “does not prevent the prohibition of private paramilitary organizations.”

All 50 states prohibit private, unauthorized groups from engaging in activities reserved for the state militia, including law enforcement activities. The fact sheets include these state-specific laws. They also include guidance for what individuals can do if they see what appear to be militia members near a polling place, and direct that they report their observations to the Election Protection helpline at 866-OUR-VOTE (866-687-8683), with which ICAP is coordinating its efforts.

Moaaar Fear Mongering...

You're terrible

 

[JazzyFresh]

Funny some Thriller wannabe just tried to send Trump and other Republicans Ricin but you hypocrites didn't say a word about that.

Hell one of your own threatened to kill Trump and his supporters on this very forum and you guys love that little wannabe terrorist alcoholic.

@Gameface

 

[JazzyFresh]

"They discussed different ways of achieving this goal from peaceful endeavors to violent actions ... Several members talked about murdering 'tyrants' or 'taking' a sitting governor," according to the complaint.



Wow they're talking about doing everything BLM and Antifa are doing. You know, like showing up at Governors houses in the middle of the night. Shooting fireworks at occupied resident buildings because Portland's Mayor was there. Executing a Trump supporter while his daughter watched.

 

[JazzyFresh]

March to Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler’s home declared riot Monday as burning debris thrown into building: Key takeaways

Shortly after 11 p.m., a bundle of newspapers was set ablaze and thrown into a ground-floor storefront in the residential building.

Around the same time, police arrived and warned over a loudspeaker that the gathering had been declared an unlawful assembly, then a riot. Officers ordered people to leave to the west.

The 16-story building contains 114 residences. The fire didn’t appear to spread and was quickly extinguished. Police used crowd-control munitions and released smoke into the air as they pushed the crowd west.

 

[JazzyFresh]

 

[JazzyFresh]

But you know, you little terrorist shooting highly explosive fireworks at an occupied apartment building with kids in it because a Mayor lives there is terrorism BY DEFINITION.

 

[JazzyFresh]

How about the BLM guy who ambushed two police officers while other BLM members blocked ambulances screaming they hope people die?

But but a few radicals threatened someone. Lol you guys are dumb.

 

[One Brow]

Funny. Right wingers on here have been telling us for months that the real threat is BLM and antifa, not right wing terrorists and white supremacists groups.

13 charged in plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer

Thirteen people were charged Thursday in an alleged domestic terrorism plot to kidnap Michigan Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, federal and state officials announced.

www.cnn.com

I'm not denying these groups are a threat. However, the FBI is also in the habit of encouraging a people to go beyond what they normally would, and then arresting them for it. So I take a plot to kidnap a governor with a grain of salt.