Tough Day To Be In Law Enforcement

[Joe Bagadonuts]

That answer sounds nice but obviously it is more than just a few bad police, its either a bad system or the a lot of them are bad. I agree that we need good cops. We also need cops with good training, good oversight, and a good system. The question is can we cut out the bad cops and change the system enough to fix it? I think we can but it is going to take more than just a few simple policy changes and a getting rid of a few bad cops.

This specific situation isnt just one bad apple, like you said. This is a lot of people that let this happen. It was documented and witnessed yet nothing happened. He was protected by his fellow officers. Everyone who witnessed it or had it reported to and did nothing should be punished.

Also the fact that in the majority of the USA states police can have "consensual sex" with people in their custody is despicable.

I'm not sure it is legal for a police officer to have sex with people in their custody. It certainly should not be. If someone is suggesting it's legal because there is no specific law saying that they can't do it in some specific circumstance I think that's a stretch. Here's an article that partially addresses the issue:

Fact Check: Federal law makes it illegal for officers to have sex with inmates

Sexual relationships between officials and inmates are illegal because inmates cannot give staff consent. A claim that says otherwise is false.

www.usatoday.com

Regarding the officer we were initially talking about, I will be interested to learn more about what actually went on and who knew about it. The people who knew about it while it was happening have some serious questions to answer. You may be right that the knowledge was widespread and maybe it will turn out that the problem is far greater than I believe. I look forward to a thorough investigation and punishment for anyone who has been involved in assisting or covering up these obvious wrongs.

 

[Archie Moses]

Any of you guys hear about the guys in Indiana threatening to lynch a black dude? The video shows a bunch of drunken, deliverance looking red-necks that just ooze with being pieces of ****.

 

[Avery]

I'm not sure it is legal for a police officer to have sex with people in their custody. It certainly should not be. If someone is suggesting it's legal because there is no specific law saying that they can't do it in some specific circumstance I think that's a stretch. Here's an article that partially addresses the issue:

Fact Check: Federal law makes it illegal for officers to have sex with inmates

Sexual relationships between officials and inmates are illegal because inmates cannot give staff consent. A claim that says otherwise is false.

www.usatoday.com

Regarding the officer we were initially talking about, I will be interested to learn more about what actually went on and who knew about it. The people who knew about it while it was happening have some serious questions to answer. You may be right that the knowledge was widespread and maybe it will turn out that the problem is far greater than I believe. I look forward to a thorough investigation and punishment for anyone who has been involved in assisting or covering up these obvious wrongs.

Kind of sad that we actually need to enact a law for something that is fundamentally a bad idea for anyone with common sense.

 

[Ron Mexico]

I'm not sure it is legal for a police officer to have sex with people in their custody. It certainly should not be. If someone is suggesting it's legal because there is no specific law saying that they can't do it in some specific circumstance I think that's a stretch. Here's an article that partially addresses the issue:

Fact Check: Federal law makes it illegal for officers to have sex with inmates

Sexual relationships between officials and inmates are illegal because inmates cannot give staff consent. A claim that says otherwise is false.

www.usatoday.com

Regarding the officer we were initially talking about, I will be interested to learn more about what actually went on and who knew about it. The people who knew about it while it was happening have some serious questions to answer. You may be right that the knowledge was widespread and maybe it will turn out that the problem is far greater than I believe. I look forward to a thorough investigation and punishment for anyone who has been involved in assisting or covering up these obvious wrongs.

Most of the article is discussing inmates and that's a different thing and situation that fortunately is not allowed. It's also fortunate that many states are closing the cop loophole. But they all should it's crazy we still haven't done that in 1900 let along now.

No law against is allowing it. If there was no law against rape at all then it would allow people to get away with it, that's the whole point. If you can't be punished because it's not illegal that allows it.

I agree it's wrong. It's allowed many police officers to rape and sexually assault people without charges. The worst that happens is the get fired for inappropriate behavior. But the reality is they can just apply at another police station and get hired. Or move to a different job without much ramification.

Obviously out right rape is banned but not sex in 35 states. But to me it's always rape if you're a cop on duty, especially if they are in your custody. Additionally it comes down to your word against the police or more often two police and they will win that almost everytime.

As far as the other part goes, I agree. There are far too many of these as well. How many police have serious accusations against them that get ignored?

Can Police Legally Rape Women in 35 States?

A pair of articles about the legality of rape in police custody confused social media readers.

www.snopes.com

 

[Ron Mexico]

Kind of sad that we actually need to enact a law for something that is fundamentally a bad idea for anyone with common sense.

Why? We have laws against most things illegal. But I guess I get the sentiment.

I guess the fact that courts have allowed it means we need to make it illegal. Obviously a court should have ruled it rape a long time ago because it is and that would have made it illegal.

 

[LogGrad98]

Kind of sad that we actually need to enact a law for something that is fundamentally a bad idea for anyone with common sense.

The idea of common sense is a myth.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Most of the article is discussing inmates and that's a different thing and situation that fortunately is not allowed. It's also fortunate that many states are closing the cop loophole. But they all should it's crazy we still haven't done that in 1900 let along now.

No law against is allowing it. If there was no law against rape at all then it would allow people to get away with it, that's the whole point. If you can't be punished because it's not illegal that allows it.

I agree it's wrong. It's allowed many police officers to rape and sexually assault people without charges. The worst that happens is the get fired for inappropriate behavior. But the reality is they can just apply at another police station and get hired. Or move to a different job without much ramification.

Obviously out right rape is banned but not sex in 35 states. But to me it's always rape if you're a cop on duty, especially if they are in your custody. Additionally it comes down to your word against the police or more often two police and they will win that almost everytime.

As far as the other part goes, I agree. There are far too many of these as well. How many police have serious accusations against them that get ignored?

Can Police Legally Rape Women in 35 States?

A pair of articles about the legality of rape in police custody confused social media readers.

www.snopes.com

I wonder if it's true, as you claim, that "many police officers" have had sex with people in their custody. If so that is really sick. I have a couple of friends from high-school who became cops. We've kept in touch over the years. I have great respect for these guys. I could not imagine them doing the sorts of things you and others are insinuating that cops do. It doesn't surprise me that there are some bad cops, though. I'm certain that some real dirtbags are attracted to the idea of carrying a gun and wielding power. Those sorts of people need to be removed from the police force, not only for the safety of the public but for the reputation of law enforcement. I think everyone is in agreement on this point. The area where I think there is a wide disparity of opinions concerns what percentage of the police force is dirty.

 

[Miggs]

Any of you guys hear about the guys in Indiana threatening to lynch a black dude? The video shows a bunch of drunken, deliverance looks red necks that just ooze with being pieces of ****.

I saw it. Disgusting.

 

[Gameface]

I saw it. Disgusting.

As President Trump Condemns 'Antifa,' Protest Records Show Scant Evidence

Officials have offered little evidence that antifa-aligned protesters are behind a movement that has appeared in all 50 states

time.com

3 self-proclaimed members of the far-right 'boogaloo' movement were arrested on domestic terrorism charges for trying to spark violence during protests

According to a June 2 filing, the men discussed "causing an incident to incite chaos and possibly a riot" in response to George Floyd's death.

www.businessinsider.com

Far-Right 'Boogaloo Boys' Are Trying to Incite Violence at Protests

Three self-identified boogaloo boys were arrested in Nevada for conspiracy to incite violence during a George Floyd protest.

www.rollingstone.com

 

[Miggs]

As President Trump Condemns 'Antifa,' Protest Records Show Scant Evidence

Officials have offered little evidence that antifa-aligned protesters are behind a movement that has appeared in all 50 states

time.com

3 self-proclaimed members of the far-right 'boogaloo' movement were arrested on domestic terrorism charges for trying to spark violence during protests

According to a June 2 filing, the men discussed "causing an incident to incite chaos and possibly a riot" in response to George Floyd's death.

www.businessinsider.com

Far-Right 'Boogaloo Boys' Are Trying to Incite Violence at Protests

Three self-identified boogaloo boys were arrested in Nevada for conspiracy to incite violence during a George Floyd protest.

www.rollingstone.com

Huh?

 

[Gameface]

Huh?

sorry, didn't quote the right post by you.

I'm not trying to get in on the discussion, really, but you wanted some links, so... links

I took 30 seconds out of my busy life to find them, so I'm sure they are the best of the best.

 

[Red]

I had occasion to post this video in response to a question in the 2020 election thread. Since it bears on the claims involving Antifa involvement in recent violence at the protests, it may be worth a look to those following that aspect in this thread as well....