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One Brow said:
I only checked New York City. They seem to think their budget went up in 2020.

New York City Fiscal History-Police Department

The Independent Budget Office (IBO) is a publicly funded agency that provides nonpartisan information about New York City's budget to the public and their elected officials.
ibo.nyc.ny.us
2019: 5,668,823
2020: 5,785,046

I only had to check one. Why should I believe you about any of the others?
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Well I checked another one and what do you know...
 
And the "defunding" of the SLC police didn't actually reduce the money allocated to the police, it just took 5.3 million of their budget and put it into a fund the police department didn't control and spent it on things like body cameras and social workers.

Instead, the council opted to reduce the budget by around $5.3 million, which will likely still go to police functions but held in a non-departmental account that gives the council more oversight over how the funds are used. Councilmembers said $2.8 million will be reserved for to-be-determined items, such as outfitting every officer with new body cameras and additional training. Another $2.5 million will go towards the city’s social worker program.
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Gameface said:
And the "defunding" of the SLC police didn't actually reduce the money allocated to the police, it just took 5.3 million of their budget and put it into a fund the police department didn't control and spent it on things like body cameras and social workers.
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Social workers aren't police. You can dance but Salt Lake City defunded their police. It is an idea that democrats have since run away from because it was stupid but we shouldn't pretend it didn't happen and who was responsible for it happening.
 
Al-O-Meter said:
Social workers aren't police. You can dance but Salt Lake City defunded their police. It is an idea that democrats have since run away from because it was stupid but we shouldn't pretend it didn't happen and who was responsible for it happening.
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The amount of budget reduction was small and in SLC some of that money was spent to shift some police functions to other more appropriate workers.

If you take work off the desk of the SLC police department officers and put that work on the desk of social workers then you haven't defunded the police. You're relived them of some of the burdens that are not appropriate for them and given the funding for those functions to another group.

You brought weak sauce to the party and no one likes it.
 
One Brow said:
I only checked New York City. They seem to think their budget went up in 2020.

New York City Fiscal History-Police Department

The Independent Budget Office (IBO) is a publicly funded agency that provides nonpartisan information about New York City's budget to the public and their elected officials.
ibo.nyc.ny.us
2019: 5,668,823
2020: 5,785,046

I only had to check one. Why should I believe you about any of the others?
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I knew someone would say this.

Lies, damned lies and statistics.
 
Gameface said:
And the "defunding" of the SLC police didn't actually reduce the money allocated to the police, it just took 5.3 million of their budget and put it into a fund the police department didn't control and spent it on things like body cameras and social workers.
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The irony from this comment, assuming you're actually for defunding the police.

Money is certainly fungible, but to say it's weak sauce when someone answers your question is a bit much.

Person: Who was defunded?

Person: them.

Person: weak sauce, if you don't look at the numbers that way and this way.

I don't get it.
 
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