Tough Day To Be In Law Enforcement
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Archie Moses
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Did this officer do anything wrong?
It is technically an arrest. I looked it up before posting that.
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Miggs
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Not how you phrased it earlier. You said when you get a ticket you’ve been arrested. That’s not accurate. When pulled over, you’re temporarily under arrest. If given a ticket, you’re then free to go and no longer under arrest. That also does not count toward your arrest record.
Every other industrialized country manages to go without choke holds. I suppose you, Rogan, and Willink think Americans are too stupid for that. Willink is talk about more combat training.
Archie Moses
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A quick Google search shows that's not true.
I think the guy offered some great ideas for police training requirements. I don't care they voiced opinions on choke holds.
candrew
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I'll preface this by saying Jocko is definitely not a hack. I'm quite confident that he would never purposely misrepresent facts.
But I'd love to see the raw data on Jocko's claim at the 22 minute mark that most IAD complaints about cops come from other cops.
I'd think a deeper dive into the data would reveal those complaints are mostly work related grievances - being treated unfairly by your CO, getting injured on the job thru negligence, pay/OT related issues, etc.
I don't believe for a second that many if any of those complaints revolve around police misconduct when it comes to dealing with the public.
If issued a ticket you've been arrested. Past tense. There was a point at which you were arrested.
Zombie
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Being arrested simply means that the police have reasonable cause to believe you've broken the law (in this example having committed a traffic violation) and you are not free to leave until directed by the attending officer.
I think most people use the term "under arrest" only when talking about someone being put in handcuffs or otherwise taken into long term police custody, like to a jail cell or whatever. But you're right that that's not really what it means as far as the law is concerned.
I'm guessing, although not I'm not sure, that the only arrests that go on someone's criminal record are those for criminal behavior beyond civil infractions like speeding which isn't (usually) technically a "crime."
Miggs
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That’s fine. Your earlier post simply wasn’t as clear as it could be. The ticket has nothing to do with the arrest. Being pulled over and detained does. Perhaps I just didn't pick up on it though.
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