Trade deadline discussion

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After reading Tony Jones' latest article I'm not at all optimistic that we'll do anything big, and maybe won't even do anything at all. Seems like we're either going to trade for Josh Richardson or just keep House for the rest of the season and call him our big addition. Sounds like they're hesitant to trade a first-round pick and aren't willing to mortgage the future to get help right now...pretty much the opposite of what we've been hearing.

 

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[Handlogten's Heros]

My super under-rated deal that I think we could actually do....

Clips send us Batum and Ibaka.
We send Jingles to OKC.
OKC sends whatever minimum buy back to LAC.

Utah and the Clips send a second each to OKC for being the intermediary here. Clips save a bunch of money. We also amend the pick protections for OKC if necessary.

The Thunder own the LAC pick so they want them to be worse... this helps them be worse... so they are a little more motivated than normal.

We get a wing and a stretch 5 that protects the paint. Ibaka is back and healthy... he could really help us avoid playoff whiteside. Batum is as good a Jingles replacement as you will find. Rudy gets a friend.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

After reading Tony Jones' latest article I'm not at all optimistic that we'll do anything big, and maybe won't even do anything at all. Seems like we're either going to trade for Josh Richardson or just keep House for the rest of the season and call him our big addition.

The vibe I got was "we might not be as all in as people think". I'm guessing we have a standing offer for Richardson that is likely okayish if Celtics strike out elsewhere.

It seems like Ainge will do the DL trick "our biggest addition is House... a 3 and D wing". Like how we added Exum and Burks multiple times.... Bruh... they were already here.

 

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He likely wouldn't leave but would be limited on how much he could be around. They should find a work around.... give him a ball boy gig.

I wonder if they could just give him some random title like special assistant coach or something in order for him to be able to stick around and be in the locker room.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Locke isn't great at this part of the NBA. He says things that are just wrong... Also if we think it will only cost a second to dump Ingles into OKC's space I think we will be shocked. If we empty the cupboards of all of our seconds and amend the pick protections for OKC I am not sure that beats other offers they'd have. I can't wait for all the local media to sell us about how great that deal is.

 

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I wonder if they could just give him some random title like special assistant coach or something in order for him to be able to stick around and be in the locker room.

Have him work for Vivant as a brand ambassador... do something shady... make the NBA call you on it and make them feel like assholes for doing it.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Locke isn't great at this part of the NBA. He says things that are just wrong... Also if we think it will only cost a second to dump Ingles into OKC's space I think we will be shocked. If we empty the cupboards of all of our seconds and amend the pick protections for OKC I am not sure that beats other offers they'd have. I can't wait for all the local media to sell us about how great that deal is.

Look they got a super valuable trade exception they can totally use next year... they definitely will use it for sure... lolz.... they will just buy second rounders... lolz we are a title contender.... lolz we can't even use rookies or young guys... lolz we are all in.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I could also see a three way deal with OKC where they take Joe, we take Richardson, and Boston takes back a minimum dude. Drops them out of the tax this year. Still need to pay OKC something.

 

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Look they got a super valuable trade exception they can totally use next year... they definitely will use it for sure... lolz.... they will just buy second rounders... lolz we are a title contender.... lolz we can't even use rookies or young guys... lolz we are all in.

The trade exceptions are the ultimate win because everyone in media can talk about how valuable they will be moving forward, but then after a year passes and they expire, you can “lol most trade exceptions expire because it’s hard to find deals for them” and there’s been enough of a temporal gap that nobody will have the wherewithal to call anyone on the inconsistency, or if they do it’s easy to hide behind “lol u dumb these are professionals who kno way better. Lol.”

 

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I posted a few days ago that my only concern with adding Grant or Barnes is that there would be too many mouths to feed in the starting lineup and that guys like Don, Bogey and Conley might to be too happy to have to give up touches and shots.... Tony Jones makes it sound like the Jazz have the same concerns.

What the Jazz have to figure out is what the best deal on the table would be for them — and whether that deal actually helps. Let’s say, hypothetically, a deal for a volume scoring forward is available. Do the Jazz want to bring someone in who will take shots and usage and touches away from Donovan Mitchell, Mike Conley and Bojan Bogdanovic? The answer to that question is no. Fit is going to matter. If the Jazz are going to make a deal, the person they get in return is going to have to fit into the group on both ends.

It makes me wonder if they were ever actually even interested in those guys or if it was just rumors.

 

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After reading Tony Jones' latest article I'm not at all optimistic that we'll do anything big, and maybe won't even do anything at all. Seems like we're either going to trade for Josh Richardson or just keep House for the rest of the season and call him our big addition. Sounds like they're hesitant to trade a first-round pick and aren't willing to mortgage the future to get help right now...pretty much the opposite of what we've been hearing.

If the Jazz want Jerami Grant or Harrison Barnes, they'd need to pony up Ingles, Royce/Clarkson, a young player and at least 1 FRP. Both guys are available. Either move would be an upgrade for this season and going forward. Jazz should be looking for an athletic and dynamic wing to put between Mitchell and Gobert longer term.

Josh Richardson and Josh Hart make a lot of sense for the Jazz, but they don't really change who the Jazz are or raise their ceiling much. Replacing Royce in the starting and closing lineup with someone who's bigger and more dynamic does change who the Jazz are.

Jazz were always going to offer Ingles and a FRP. They just need to be willing to add Royce/Clarkson and one of their young guys. That might net Barnes.