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Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

I think it is Clarkson, Beasely, and Sexton + 2023 BKN + 2nd rounder pick for Westbrook + 2FRP + Pickswap.
I think Lakers are already too guard heavy even if they do move WB. They need shooting, a bit more size and another defender than can get out to the perimeter.

I can see Beasley + Clarkson(or Sexton) + Vando ++
Olynyk is another guy they can play next to AD.

The JC stuff boils down to where he actually wants to play.

I hesitate to mention Klutch since some people apparently freak out at the mention but they do obviously rep JC, Vando, Sexton, and believe they also repped Beasley at one time too.
 
Fans will never be satisfied with a drafting record because hindsight is 20/20. One miss negates all the hits, and people claim the hits were just lucky anyways. Saw a lot of that around here with the Jazz, it's just how fans are.

The Dok pick is inexcusable and a lot of people here were pissed rightfully so on draft night. Why the **** would you draft a backup center when you knew Favors was going to sign for the MLE and end up just a hair over the tax?
 
He had a bad run of middle first picks. The draft has a bigger luck element than folks would like to admit.
Yeah Yabusele (16th), RJ Hunter (28th), and Romeo Langford (14th) were bad picks, but in that same run Robert Williams (27th), Grant Williams (22nd), Terry Rozier (16th), and Payton Pritchard (26th) were good to great picks. Plus he hit on all his high picks (Marcus Smart at 6, Jaylen Brown at 3, Jayson Tatum at 3)

I guess its more that I still see Boston fans warn me that Ainge is great for trades but **** at drafting. If he hit on 50% of our mid to late first rounders over the next 6 years that sounds like an above average outcome.
 
I think it is Clarkson, Beasely, and Sexton + 2023 BKN + 2nd rounder pick for Westbrook + 2FRP + Pickswap.

There is now way the Lakers would do that. They weren't willing to give up 2 first round picks in the offseason for a deal that would've landed them Bogey and either Beasley, Conley or Clarkson for the entire season. Why would they give up both first round picks and a pick swap now with less than 30 games left in the season, and with Bogey no longer part of the deal? I'm sure they would rather just let the rest of the season play out and let Russ's contract expire at the end of the season than give up 2 first round picks.
 
I just want the process to be smart. Taking Tony Bradley and Doke was dumb. I didn't like the Allen pick but its fine and I understood it. Take measured shots on getting the best value and hope you are lucky. If you take a center they better project as a shooter or an elite rim protector or have some other switchy ability. Taking large dinosaur centers from the 90s ain't it... especially if you have Rudy and are gonna roll out a full MLE for Favs.

If you miss... just miss in a smart way.


I think you can point out Bradley and Doke as downright horrendous selections, especially given the roster context....but one Rudy Gobert selection undo's a late first round misses. Fans, however, are tilted the other way where one miss on a low outcome pick will just make people forget about incredible hits like Gobert and Mitchell. Like missing on the 27th pick is no where near as consequential as drafting a hall of famer at 27....but when talking about DL's draft record fans will be more likely to use Doke as key factor to his drafting ability and dismiss Gobert as luck or the expectation.

GM's will always have their preferences in prospects and will go back to well, especially if it works for them. Danny hit on Brown and Tatum, but the same biases led him to take James Young and Langford. The draft isn't a perfect science. But people will give Danny too much grief for picks like Langford and not enough credit for making touch decisions on Tatum and Brown.

My theory is that people have way too high of expectations to begin with, so when amazing things happen it's only meeting expectations. When a miss happens, it's the worst thing ever even if it's more reflective of reality. If you gave an objective median expectation of each pick, I think most fans would be disappointed.
 
I could see a more realistic Laker deal looking more like Clarkson, KO and Vando for Westbrook, their 2027 unprotected first, and a second round pick
 
LAL are not trading those picks or it would have happenned. Maybe one of them with protections for Cam Reddish or some other unproven prima
 
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