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Keefe

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I agree that Mitchell is a generational talent in lots of ways. But his refusal to even try on defense the last 2 playoffs were really telling for me personally. That's not the guy I want to root for. And his refusal to play with Gobert on the court was telling as well. He's immature and overrated. He can be a great #2 but only a #2 because he isn't much of a complete player.

But I also agree that we botched the best years for these 2 from a team -building standpoint. The Conley trade was such a waste. The Favors debacle. Very poor drafting choices. It isn't entirely on Gobert and Mitchell, it's far more on the FO and the coaching staff imo. Which is why they are all gone.

But I do not believe building around Mitchell will get us any more than we have already had. I think we've already had the best around him we are likely to get. Unless he chooses to take a step to becoming a more complete player, both on defense and in his playmaking, then anything we put around him now won't be any better than having a perennial DPOY candidate. Might as well cut our losses, accept that this iteration of the jazz was a failure, and move on entirely.

Generational? Respectfully, no way. Nothing he does is some sort of once every 20 years (or even 3-4 years) type of player. Perhaps for us as a franchise he is. We may not get another player of his caliber for 15-20 years. But generally speaking, he’s not special in ways that Lebron, Giannis, Doncic, Durant, Curry and even Harden are.
 


The Jazz Wonderbra

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I vote full tank. This year's draft is the best in a decade. Mitchell will force his way out. Might as well capitalize on the best draft at the same time. We shouldn't delay

Dell Demps loved Gobert when he worked with him, so that trade was unnaturally biased with inside info. Mitchell will not yield the same thing. Sorry, he won't. It maybe close but in reality it won't happen. No team feels than Mitchell is absolutely necessary. None. Dell Demos felt Gobert was. Period.
Virtually everyone said the opposite last week. Trader Danny is afoot and I would take a very high bet that we get a similar haul for Spida.
 

LogGrad98

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Generational? Respectfully, no way. Nothing he does is some sort of once every 20 years (or even 3-4 years) type of player. Perhaps for us as a franchise he is. We may not get another player of his caliber for 15-20 years. But generally speaking, he’s not special in ways that Lebron, Giannis, Doncic, Durant, Curry and even Harden are.
I was giving him the benefit of the doubt in his argument. It's just crazy to me that Mitchell gets a complete pass from so many people for playing no defense, not even trying to involve the guy with the highest shooting percentage in the league, and continually throwing up ****** shot after ****** shot. But because Gobert can't literally guard the entire floor all at the same time it's all his fault and good riddance he's gone. The delusions just run so deep it's unfathomable.
 

YoungJefe

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Dell Demps loved Gobert when he worked with him, so that trade was unnaturally biased with inside info. Mitchell will not yield the same thing. Sorry, he won't. It maybe close but in reality it won't happen. No team feels than Mitchell is absolutely necessary. None. Dell Demos felt Gobert was. Period.
Rudy yielded 2 expiring contracts, a role player, 2 complete unknown players, and picks way off into the future. If you trade for Rudy/Don and have to move them again in 2 years, who's more valuable? Don by a country mile and it's not even relatively close. There's a very real possibility that Rudy's deal is looked at like Westbrook/Wall in a couple years.
 

whatthe

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Rudy yielded 2 expiring contracts, a role player, 2 complete unknown players, and picks way off into the future. If you trade for Rudy/Don and have to move them again in 2 years, who's more valuable? Don by a country mile and it's not even relatively close. There's a very real possibility that Rudy's deal is looked at like Westbrook/Wall in a couple years.
He won't get what Rudy got. He is not viewed as essential by any team in the league. Rudy had a fan boy in Minnesota.
 

YoungJefe

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He won't get what Rudy got. He is not viewed as essential by any team in the league. Rudy had a fan boy in Minnesota.
Don is going to get back a massive haul because he's 5 years younger, cheaper, more appealing to fans, and helps you recruit in a big market. Teams like Miami/NY are interested in him because they understand what he can do in their markets. The Wolves didn't mind trading for Rudy because they're not ever going to attract FAs regardless.
 

whatthe

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Don is going to get back a massive haul because he's 5 years younger, cheaper, more appealing to fans, and helps you recruit in a big market. Teams like Miami/NY are interested in him because they understand what he can do in their markets. The Wolves didn't mind trading for Rudy because they're not ever going to attract FAs regardless.
New York is the only team that will throw a lot in a trade for Don...because of fans sentiment for him. But they did sign Jalen Brunson. I don't think they view Mitchell as their big prize. Miami may want him, but they have weak draft capital. No one else except a team like OKC or Orlando would offer a lot for Mitchell. It is not gonna happen. In the Utah fan's hearts he is viewed as Batman but to everyone else in the league he is Robin.
 


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