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All great points my friend, thank you for your insight
Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz
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jom2003
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no thanks. We currently have zero wing or big who can initiate offense or create anything with the ball.
You can have as many ball-playing guards as you want but without any offensive threats coming from the low block or elbow, it will always struggle against 5 out defense.
It's called the no-ball lineup.
I like Sexton and think he's a baller but agree with many of you - I wouldn't want him starting alongside DM.
Though I'd be all about it if Mitchell and Conley are being traded. Otherwise it doesn't make a lot of sense unless they plan on keeping Conley as the 6th man, moving DM and obtaining a good-sized starting SG.
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Instead of 5-out, it's 5-and-under.
Thee Jazz Fan
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So weird it’s this late and we still hano idea what this team is going to look like. This isn’t your daddy’s team anymore.
Ineptimusprime
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What of value did we actually give up for Conley? We basically gave them spare parts, a decent role player in Jae Crowder, and two FRPs, one of which became a nobody and one of which we got back in the Rudy trade (Walker Kessler).
A good argument is that we should have used those same assets to go after someone bigger and younger (Brogdon), but I am skeptical even that would have moved the needle much.
But we got the only All-Star season of Conley’s career and a really damn good regular season last year for what was basically a bunch of spare parts. We won the Conley trade even though we didn’t reach the hoped-for heights.
The big failure that doomed this build in was not the Conley trade. It was constantly ****ing up at the margins with bad free agent signings, bad drafting, and then attaching picks to fix those mistakes. We could have created a much better supporting cast just by drafting better and signing better FAs.
A good argument is that we should have used those same assets to go after someone bigger and younger (Brogdon), but I am skeptical even that would have moved the needle much.
But we got the only All-Star season of Conley’s career and a really damn good regular season last year for what was basically a bunch of spare parts. We won the Conley trade even though we didn’t reach the hoped-for heights.
The big failure that doomed this build in was not the Conley trade. It was constantly ****ing up at the margins with bad free agent signings, bad drafting, and then attaching picks to fix those mistakes. We could have created a much better supporting cast just by drafting better and signing better FAs.
Ineptimusprime
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I am sure some trades will come down that makes me look stupid, but right now aren’t the tea leaves pointing strongly towards a rebuild rather than a retool? Unless we are planning on picking up some killer “win now” pieces by trade (there’s really not much precedent in teams swapping “like for like,” and guys like Bogey and Conley usually go to contenders in exchange for meh-to-bad salary and picks), the fact that we’ve signed ZERO veteran free agents at this stage when everyone of note is signed somewhere seems to be a strong “tell” we aren’t REALLY planning on retooling and competing next year, no?
Jazz would get Sexton to fake signal competing so offers for Mitchell get more serious.
You can tank around Sexton. Let him put stats up. He's cheaper than Mitchell.
You can tank around Sexton. Let him put stats up. He's cheaper than Mitchell.
Yes...every single move they've made so far this offseason points to a re-build, not a re-tool. The front office can say whatever they want but actions speak louder than words.