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Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

Handlogten's Heros said:
I'd be hoping to draft a star and less worried about getting a guy with star potential. If leaving RJ out of the deal has the effect that leaving McDaniels out did then I prefer that route. We got a lot of extra stuff because Minny said McDaniels was untouhable.
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This. I am kind of done with guys with "potential" because that often means like 30% chance of a star being born, 30% of total melt-down, and maybe 40% basic NBA player. I would rather take the shot on the complete unknown tbh and make our own destiny and either fly or drown in the outcome. A lot like buying a used car, you know it runs great, but it might have some transmission problems, but hey it could be the best car you ever owned. I would rather buy new and have all the problems be mine, not someone else's.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
the next best thing after legitimately contending is hope. all these garbage teams with good young players have hope. those teams drafting in the 13-22 range - eff that.
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You have to be lucky enough to draft a Giannis at that point. And then find a Middleton for nothing. Then a blue chip center that is a perfect fit that gets wildly undervalued and falls in your hands. Good for the Bucks! That's not something you can plan for.
 
NUMBERICA said:
You have to be lucky enough to draft a Giannis at that point. And then find a Middleton for nothing. Then a blue chip center that is a perfect fit that gets wildly undervalued and falls in your hands. Good for the Bucks! That's not something you can plan for.
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We kind of did the first 2, in that we drafted Mitchell and Gobert. But for us the blue-chip player was supposed to be Conley. Bummer.
 
TheStormofWar said:
Lakers fans being myopic as usual and the Warriors are one of the major thots of the NBA. It's always rumored they're doing everyone.
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Yeah Lakers fans are like Veruca Salt. Everything belongs to them whether it does or it doesn't, and the title is their birthright.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I'd be hoping to draft a star and less worried about getting a guy with star potential. If leaving RJ out of the deal has the effect that leaving McDaniels out did then I prefer that route. We got a lot of extra stuff because Minny said McDaniels was untouhable.
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This comparison between RJ and McDaniels in the context of trades that you just made is precisely what I was thinking earlier this morning; "You really value RJ? Fine, but you gotta find other premium asset(s), and no, Randle is not that. In fact, he's the opposite and you'll have to throw in more premium assets if we're taking him."
 
LogGrad98 said:
We kind of did the first 2, in that we drafted Mitchell and Gobert. But for us the blue-chip player was supposed to be Conley. Bummer.
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I don't think the comparison is apt. The Bucks got a terrific shooter that blocks shots and is one of the biggest players in the league for like the league minimum or some ****, then reupped (thanks auto-correct) for modest money. His anemic rebounding kinda doesn't matter because of Giannis, who basically needs to play next to a stretch 5.

We haven't had any luck of that kind. Saying nothing of what the picks turned into and saying everything of opportunity cost, the Conley trade was basically emptying the clip of the Jazz's assets and he cost a ******** of money on top of that. Also, perhaps the smallest player in the entire NBA that is any good.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I don't think the comparison is apt. The Bucks got a terrific shooter that blocks shots and is one of the biggest players in the league for like the league minimum or some ****, then erupted for modest money. His anemic rebounding kinda doesn't matter because of Giannis, who basically needs to play next to a stretch 5.

We haven't had any luck of that kind. Saying nothing of what the picks turned into and saying everything of opportunity cost, the Conley trade was basically emptying the clip of the Jazz's assets and he cost a ******** of money on top of that. Also, perhaps the smallest player in the entire NBA that is any good.
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All I was getting at is we had our "big 2" and brought in Conley to be our "big 3" and it was just the wrong piece. They did a guard, a big/wing, and a center. We did a guard, a center and added...a smaller guard. Not the best move all things considered.
 
The other item from the Fisher article I found interesting was that Vando has a good amount of value and said Bev would have suitors too.
 
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