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NUMBERICA

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I think its pretty close... Bogey can get a first somewhere but not as good a first as the Lakers would give up here. Conley likely can't get a first right now. Maybe you throw Rudy Gay into the deal too to even it out. Maybe its just a second round pick to even things out.

I think to get two firsts it will cost us a few more or different pieces... Namely Vanderbilt... who is worth a good first on his own. IDK... just spitballing a bit.
Do a follow up deal for THT + draft stuff. Vando, Clarkson, young player from Knicks… Butler?
 

hgb

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So, RW+THT+Nunn can take back Mike, Bojan, Beasley and PatBev. That's pretty good value for Lakers right there. We can add Balmaro or Kessler or Vanderbilt (I wouldn't want the latter, though). Obviously, adding those guys means it's '27 and '29 unprotected, but for LAL that might be their best-case (unless they get Kyrie) trade, and they are probably content with a decade of **** if it gives them a ring or two.
 

Elizah Huge

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Why would Charlotte want RW? And why would LA not take that deal? In any case, I'd be on the phone with them if we were to land RW and try to extract something out of that deal. You just add an additional year of contract with Hayward. Rehab Hayward's value then ship him off somewhere. Have this be the perpetual draft pick fund.

Only reason Charlotte does it is to get off of Hayward’s salary since Westbrook is expiring.
 

infection

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Only reason Charlotte does it is to get off of Hayward’s salary since Westbrook is expiring.
That’s crazy. I’d offer them that swap for a distant protected first rounder or a pick swap. Or all their second rounders. I honestly believe you could deal off Hayward for something else later.
 

Keefe

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What if it was just Bogey and Mike for Westbrook and one of their picks? I’d probably do that in a second. Clears the cap even more next year. Still have the Minnesota guys to trade if we want. Can still kind of bluff and say we are keeping Donovan… say we are clearing the cap for adding a FA and using our 2023 picks to rebuild around Don.

Don
Bev
Beasley?
Vando/Simone
Doke/Kessler/Vando

JC off the bench… that good enough to bluff? Maybe not… certainly good enough to tank though.

I’d do it but do it for an unprotected pick only and preferably a 2026 one, if they still have it.
 

NUMBERICA

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So, RW+THT+Nunn can take back Mike, Bojan, Beasley and PatBev. That's pretty good value for Lakers right there. We can add Balmaro or Kessler or Vanderbilt (I wouldn't want the latter, though). Obviously, adding those guys means it's '27 and '29 unprotected, but for LAL that might be their best-case (unless they get Kyrie) trade, and they are probably content with a decade of **** if it gives them a ring or two.
I’m not precisely certain who they’d want of our vets (they could take almost all of them if it’s all about winning, or take back as little as possible if it’s about saving money, or anything in between), but if it’s me Bolmaro and Kessler are staying. Might be irrational on my part but I really like both of them a lot and can see them being useful rotation players on the hopeful, eventual contender if they develop like I think they can.
 

NUMBERICA

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I’d do it but do it for an unprotected pick only and preferably a 2026 one, if they still have it.
LA has a weird situation. NOLA has the right to take their ‘24 OR ‘25 1st, so they could potentially trade a ‘26 pick, it just wouldn’t be tradable until that situation is figured out.

But your question did spark the realization that LA should be able to swap ‘26 either way, so that sparks another thought.

Jazz/Knicks: Donovan to Knicks
-‘23/‘25/‘27/‘29 super (duper?) swaps
-‘24/‘26/‘28 unprotected
-‘23 Mavs pick
-their worst salary matching players, if they get any youths then they are ammo to LA

Jazz/Lakers: whoever the Lakers want
-‘26/‘27/‘28 super swaps
-‘29 unprotected

Some **** like that. I’m ****ing crazed AF. The basic ideas here are:

-Jazz assuredly secure a pick every draft, even if they convey a pick to OKC and even if the Wolves keep their pick in ‘29
-in every year they have at least one additional unprotected pick from another team, sometimes more
-in all years but one they also get super swaps to juice the value of their picks.
 
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