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Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

Saint Cy of JFC said:
Rudy going to be motivated by winning his 4th DPOY so Im not too worried about him in that regard. He does have him moments of kind of half-assing, but overall he's one of the more committed players in teh NBA.
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You can tell when there is something he’s trying to prove at times… when he’s half assign things. I worry a little bit hopefully he just comes in and screams at everyone Dray style cuz he DGAF anymore. That might be best case scenario for this season… he already died the hair so maybe he goes like full chaos/unhinged. I would tune in for that.
 
Darkwing Duck said:
This is the only website where I've seen praise for what the Knicks did yesterday. Everwhere else I've seen it called at a best a disaster.
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The Knicks made the first step of many to get on track. They now have 11 first rounders in the next 7 drafts. If they play their cards right and don't give out any stupid contracts, they could be in the right direction.

However, most people expect them to do something stupid like trade for Kyrie, overpay for Brunson, etc.

All they have to do now is find takers for any of Rose, Fournier, or Burks. They can use Reddish if he has any value. They could even consider trading Randle if it means long term savings.

Quickley, Toppin, Barrett, Robinson and all those picks have value. Everything else is pretty bad. They need to play the long game, but they likely won't.
 
I also think a Mike deal was always more likely once FA began. Like if the Wiz don’t bring back Beal why trade for Mike… I think Beal is a done deal in Washington but why not wait for sure. He will be second/third choice for NY, Was, etc.

I also think it’s tough for Danny to do a deal when he can’t trade Royce or JC cuz they FOD Friends of Don
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Again, our players our valued, but you cant trade old win now players for younger win now pieces.

You trade those players for future assets and take back worse players. That's how it works. The Jazz are trying to thread a needle that's very difficult. Maybe Ainge is a mastermind who can do it, but Im not hopeful.
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Yeah, but they're thinking they want to win now and want to offer everyone but one guy for win-now pieces and they didn't have to go through this. Every idiot (well, most, at least) on this forum could have told you the poor return on win-now pieces for a couple months now. There is one guy, though, who could return us win-now pieces that keep us competitive but he's the one they want to make untradeable and build the whole thing around. That they can't recognize this helps us understand that their abilities in roster management are about as good as their expertise in rebranding or their expertise in cap math.
 
I think the Jazz will retool the roster around Rudy Gobert and Donovan Mitchell I’m not even going to say these are moves Danny Ainge or Ryan Smith will do…in the coming days in free agency it’s all speculation at this time.
 

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Handlogten's Heros said:
I also think a Mike deal was always more likely once FA began. Like if the Wiz don’t bring back Beal why trade for Mike… I think Beal is a done deal in Washington but why not wait for sure. He will be second/third choice for NY, Was, etc.
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I agree. The Mike deal will get done once some of the stars are set in place. Mike has a good rep, and adding him would be a gesture of intent to a guy like Beal, LeBron, KD, etc.
 
Pinhead said:
Wait… are you two allowed to agree on something? That has to be a violation of the forum rules!
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Haha. Man, believe it or not, I don't like to fight. Our discussions are fine, but we have resulted to pettiness, and that atmosphere has eroded the forum. I'm going to try to be a better man as Jack said.

We will still disagree, but name calling has to go. That goes for me and HH too.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Rudy going to be motivated by winning his 4th DPOY so Im not too worried about him in that regard. He does have him moments of kind of half-assing, but overall he's one of the more committed players in teh NBA.
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I am fairly certain he will be black-balled from another DPOY win. He has already been robbed twice, as he is decidedly the best defensive player in the league and has been for 6 years straight. He should have 5 by now realistically. I would be surprised if he ever got his 4th.
 
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