Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

Still trying to figure out the best way to incorporate the Kings. What if the Kings sent Fox to the Lakers and Westbrook comes to the Jazz. Then the Jazz can still get whatever we can from our other pieces in subsequent trades with contenders.

Would you do this? I am assuming that the Jazz then get pick swaps with the Kings for 2023, 2025, and 2027. This essentially gets us 7 first round plics plus Davion Mitchell (Jared Butler's teammate) for Spida and Clarkson. Laker's could substitute Malik Beasley, Beverley, Conley (tougher with salary considerations), or Clarkson. I wouldn't do Bogdonovic because I think we can get more from him elsewhere.

Do the Laker's do it? It's win now time baby. Screw the future. LA will figure it out. De'Aaron Fox and Jordan Clarkson give so much more than Westbrook.

Do the King's do it? It's pretty rich. But if they want an All Star to partner with Keagan Murray? Two draft picks and 3 swaps with a team that is going to be floundering. It's not THAT rich tbh.

 

[fishonjazz]

Still trying to figure out the best way to incorporate the Kings. What if the Kings sent Fox to the Lakers and Westbrook comes to the Jazz. Then the Jazz can still get whatever we can from our other pieces in subsequent trades with contenders.

Would you do this? I am assuming that the Jazz then get pick swaps with the Kings for 2023, 2025, and 2027. This essentially gets us 7 first round plics plus Davion Mitchell (Jared Butler's teammate) for Spida and Clarkson. Laker's could substitute Malik Beasley, Beverley, Conley (tougher with salary considerations), or Clarkson. I wouldn't do Bogdonovic because I think we can get more from him elsewhere.

Do the Laker's do it? It's win now time baby. Screw the future. LA will figure it out. De'Aaron Fox and Jordan Clarkson give so much more than Westbrook.

Do the King's do it? It's pretty rich. But if they want an All Star to partner with Keagan Murray? Two draft picks and 3 swaps with a team that is going to be floundering. It's not THAT rich tbh.


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I would do that


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[idiot]

I would do that


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Kings wouldn't

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Still trying to figure out the best way to incorporate the Kings. What if the Kings sent Fox to the Lakers and Westbrook comes to the Jazz. Then the Jazz can still get whatever we can from our other pieces in subsequent trades with contenders.

Would you do this? I am assuming that the Jazz then get pick swaps with the Kings for 2023, 2025, and 2027. This essentially gets us 7 first round plics plus Davion Mitchell (Jared Butler's teammate) for Spida and Clarkson. Laker's could substitute Malik Beasley, Beverley, Conley (tougher with salary considerations), or Clarkson. I wouldn't do Bogdonovic because I think we can get more from him elsewhere.

Do the Laker's do it? It's win now time baby. Screw the future. LA will figure it out. De'Aaron Fox and Jordan Clarkson give so much more than Westbrook.

Do the King's do it? It's pretty rich. But if they want an All Star to partner with Keagan Murray? Two draft picks and 3 swaps with a team that is going to be floundering. It's not THAT rich tbh.


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i don't like it. i need two more picks and those picks are too far down the road. and yeah, the kings laugh at that deal.

 

[Bodhi]

Still trying to figure out the best way to incorporate the Kings. What if the Kings sent Fox to the Lakers and Westbrook comes to the Jazz. Then the Jazz can still get whatever we can from our other pieces in subsequent trades with contenders.

Would you do this? I am assuming that the Jazz then get pick swaps with the Kings for 2023, 2025, and 2027. This essentially gets us 7 first round plics plus Davion Mitchell (Jared Butler's teammate) for Spida and Clarkson. Laker's could substitute Malik Beasley, Beverley, Conley (tougher with salary considerations), or Clarkson. I wouldn't do Bogdonovic because I think we can get more from him elsewhere.

Do the Laker's do it? It's win now time baby. Screw the future. LA will figure it out. De'Aaron Fox and Jordan Clarkson give so much more than Westbrook.

Do the King's do it? It's pretty rich. But if they want an All Star to partner with Keagan Murray? Two draft picks and 3 swaps with a team that is going to be floundering. It's not THAT rich tbh.


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Maybe Im slow but where is the "7picks" part coming from? I see 4 and Davion.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Still trying to figure out the best way to incorporate the Kings. What if the Kings sent Fox to the Lakers and Westbrook comes to the Jazz. Then the Jazz can still get whatever we can from our other pieces in subsequent trades with contenders.

Would you do this? I am assuming that the Jazz then get pick swaps with the Kings for 2023, 2025, and 2027. This essentially gets us 7 first round plics plus Davion Mitchell (Jared Butler's teammate) for Spida and Clarkson. Laker's could substitute Malik Beasley, Beverley, Conley (tougher with salary considerations), or Clarkson. I wouldn't do Bogdonovic because I think we can get more from him elsewhere.

Do the Laker's do it? It's win now time baby. Screw the future. LA will figure it out. De'Aaron Fox and Jordan Clarkson give so much more than Westbrook.

Do the King's do it? It's pretty rich. But if they want an All Star to partner with Keagan Murray? Two draft picks and 3 swaps with a team that is going to be floundering. It's not THAT rich tbh.


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There is no deal without Keegan to Utah

 

[PresidioTrojan]

Still trying to figure out the best way to incorporate the Kings. What if the Kings sent Fox to the Lakers and Westbrook comes to the Jazz. Then the Jazz can still get whatever we can from our other pieces in subsequent trades with contenders.

Would you do this? I am assuming that the Jazz then get pick swaps with the Kings for 2023, 2025, and 2027. This essentially gets us 7 first round plics plus Davion Mitchell (Jared Butler's teammate) for Spida and Clarkson. Laker's could substitute Malik Beasley, Beverley, Conley (tougher with salary considerations), or Clarkson. I wouldn't do Bogdonovic because I think we can get more from him elsewhere.

Do the Laker's do it? It's win now time baby. Screw the future. LA will figure it out. De'Aaron Fox and Jordan Clarkson give so much more than Westbrook.

Do the King's do it? It's pretty rich. But if they want an All Star to partner with Keagan Murray? Two draft picks and 3 swaps with a team that is going to be floundering. It's not THAT rich tbh.


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IMO, terrible deal for Utah and Sacramento. We need more picks or Fox/Murray, and Lakers don't shed nearly enough to get off of Russ + nab Fox in the process.

Very interesting potential trio of trade partners, though. The Kings have a ton of good looking assets.

 

[Nate505]

Trading away Mitchell to get, well, Davion Mitchell and four picks that don't convey until 2026? Is the point to tank attendance next year?

 

[outerspacefan]

Perceptions of Mitchell's value appears to have been badly affected by one season playing clearly not at 100%, with lots of roster turmoil and deep franchise changes all around.
Dude is 25, a truly beast scorer and a game changer in and off court. Some not serious franchises can be made instantly serious by the presence of this kid.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Perceptions of Mitchell's value appears to have been badly affected by one season playing clearly not at 100%, with lots of roster turmoil and deep franchise changes all around.
Dude is 25, a truly beast scorer and a game changer in and off court. Some not serious franchises can be made instantly serious by the presence of this kid.

He's also 6'1 and highly linked to New York, which is going to scare a lot of teams off.

And while he is very good, he has failed in the playoffs in a team sense (yes, he has had amazing individual scoring games). I dont think there is any team that is lookin at Mitchell as the final piece given his huge defensive issues.

 

[outerspacefan]

He's also 6'1 and highly linked to New York, which is going to scare a lot of teams off.

And while he is very good, he has failed in the playoffs in a team sense (yes, he has had amazing individual scoring games). I dont think there is any team that is lookin at Mitchell as the final piece given his huge defensive issues.

While it's true height is a concern for today's NBA guards, Mitchell's got the physical tools and the ability needed to be at the least an average defender.
He'd be average or very close to it D within a more common, normal scheme. Quin required a lot from perimeter dudes, basically to play 4 on 5, which was clearly not within the range of Jazz roster. It was very good for some time, but NBA teams just crack it and it was no margin above. In the end Jazz got killed as a whole, not just Mitchell. I'd add to it that DM was not at 100%, it was fairly obvious.
Just MH(and-useless)O.

 

[LogGrad98]

While it's true height is a concern for today's NBA guards, Mitchell's got the physical tools and the ability needed to be at the least an average defender.
He'd be average or very close to it D within a more common, normal scheme. Quin required a lot from perimeter dudes, basically to play 4 on 5, which was clearly not within the range of Jazz roster. It was very good for some time, but NBA teams just creack it and it was no margin above. In the end Jazz got killed as a whole, not just Mitchell. I'd add to it that DM was not at 100%, it was fairly obvious.
Just MH(and-useless)O.

He doesn't have the most important tool to be at least an average defender: will. If he can just turn his will on and off depending on if he wants to get someone traded or blow up the team, well he's not a real competitor and will never be even an average defender.