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Traditional PG not needed in Quin's offense

RRJazz said:
After that huge 3rd quarter, I was sure a thread was going to pop up telling us "we don't need Rubio". It took longer than expected but here it is.

Every time a player misses a game and we still win it, it's an automatic "trade him! not needed!"
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Never said that, did I? He has improved but my point still stands -- our offense is not predicated on a traditional point guard as Rubio has been his whole career.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
Just looked up some stats but didn't analyze -- I noticed Ricky was almost as high as Steph Curry in touches but also very low in pts per touch. Now that is not necessarily that important if you create for others. But we also know that his assist rate until recently has been far below career numbers. The point I have been making is a valid criticism because it is when he does dribble too much that he gets himself in trouble. I think one of the reasons he has improved his level of play is that he cut down on that, and also that he is now finishing at the rim when he wasn't before. I also think he is making better decisions as to when to go to the basket to try and score than previously so that he's just not throwing up prayers that have little chance of going in.
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Stats will be skewed somewhat considering the blistering schedule we played in December.

Plus Ricky is new to the system.

Careful to use a small sample size to support your argument.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
Never said that, did I? He has improved but my point still stands -- our offense is not predicated on a traditional point guard as Rubio has been his whole career.
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You see things black and white. 48 minutes of basketball give time for Rubio to run plays, but also DM, Ingles, O'Neale, etc. That's what drives opponents nuts. They are on their hills because with so many talented passers they don't know what's coming. When Rubio plays there are a ton of possesions where somebody else runs a play but it's busted, so they quicky pass it to Rubio so he makes something good happen in a matter of 5 seconds.
 
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Eenie-Meenie said:
I think last night showed that the traditional PG who dominates the ball not only is unnecessary in Quin's offense but actually a detriment. My main complaint with Ricky has been that he controls the ball too much. The pass and cut offense of Quin requires each player to give up the ball when there is no opening either to shoot or penetrate. The third quarter last night was a good illustration. What those who penetrate need to do is find the open man if they don't have a good opportunity to score. Ingles does this to perfection.
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You must have missed the first half of the game, in which our offense was complete trash. I kind of like games where we don't wait until the 2nd half before our offense looks good.
 
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