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Transgender and sports

@One Brow do you think any male (not ones that are transitioning or have transitioned) should be allowed to compete in females sports?
As I have said at least five times now, I think every sport's governing body should make their own rules about who can compete and who can not, and it will be different rules for leagues. Some professional leagues might ban trans men/women entirely; they need to do what works for them. High school leagues are supposed to be about developing students, not the best athlete, and those would have different rules from professional leagues.
 
As I have said at least five times now, I think every sport's governing body should make their own rules about who can compete and who can not, and it will be different rules for leagues. Some professional leagues might ban trans men/women entirely; they need to do what works for them. High school leagues are supposed to be about developing students, not the best athlete, and those would have different rules from professional leagues.
If they did away with mens and womens teams and simply had a kearns high school basketball team (not a mens and womens team), a kearns high tennis team, soccer team, etc then there would be no women in sports. Why do you think that is?
 
As I have said at least five times now, I think every sport's governing body should make their own rules about who can compete and who can not
So lets say every sports governing body decides sports should be genderless. Wouldn't it suck that we would never see another Serena Williams? I think it would suck that my daughter wouldn't have a chance to compete at a high level in any sports.
 
If you read the article you will find that they actually feel differently about this.

Like if a male basketball player is better than me and is the reason I dont make the team then im cool it with since I have been competing against males all my life but if i suddenly had to compete against something I have never had to compete against before and lost my spot to that then I might feel differently about it.
I read it. It sounds like what every athlete has gone through at some point in their career unless they are extremely elite. It does seem like people are pretty uncomfortable with a lot of this because its new for them and something they dont understand. That makes sense to me. But that doesnt mean its different from what people go through when they lose. Often people look for things to bring the person down. I heard all of this when playing sports when we lost.

Would you feel the same if this was someone born female competing against males and dominating?
 
None of the ones born as females were born with penises though. that is the difference.
Dolphins are born with hearts and lungs and eyes but they were also born with fins and whatnot. Some differences matter more than others.
I can see that you will never convince me that humans born as males and humans born as females should compete together against each other and I will never convince you they shouldn't. We are done here.
What about the someone who is born with both genitalia? Or someone who has what's know as "XX male syndrome," where a person has 2 X, no Y, but still has a penis? Or any one of a myriad of other possibilities that go beyond male/female?

Why, by the way, should the determining factor be a penis or lack thereof? Is the penis in any way important in the sport? Not in many of them, I would suggest.
 
So lets say every sports governing body decides sports should be genderless. Wouldn't it suck that we would never see another Serena Williams? I think it would suck that my daughter wouldn't have a chance to compete at a high level in any sports.
I dont think anyone is saying this. But what would be different if you had a son born too short, undersized, or a thousand other things that didnt let him compete? Should we allow a league for them? Or if its high school and people really want to play we should let them. Maybe they arent on the best team and maybe they dont get much playing time. But the point of high school sports isnt winning and should not be.
 
Would you feel the same if this was someone born female competing against males and dominating?
I guarantee you, a team of WNBA stars would destroy a team comprised of any 5 of us on this board. Heck, Lisa Leslie alone in her prime could probably beat us 1-on-5.
 
I guarantee you, a team of WNBA stars would destroy a team comprised of any 5 of us on this board. Heck, Lisa Leslie alone in her prime could probably beat us 1-on-5.
But the 12 worst NBA players would destroy the 12 best WNBA players every time.
 
But the 12 worst NBA players would destroy the 12 best WNBA players every time.
It's a good thing then, I suppose, that the 12 worst NBA players are not actually transgender females.

If they were, and they were transitioning, then they would not even be the 12 worst NBA players.

I might have to say this several times.

Transgender women are not just dudes in drag. There is a difference. There is a very very real difference. If you don't know this, then you should stop engaging in this discussion.

EDIT: You should continue to engage in this discussion, but you should do so to learn.
 
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Would you feel the same if this was someone born female competing against males and dominating?
If women were better than men at sports then yes.
 
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