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I've just got to ask - why does it matter to any of you if someone says they are a different gender than you believe they are? How does it hurt you? Why can't a little compassion, kindness and understanding replace judgment and some weird need to tell others how they should live their lives? Honestly, why does it bother you so much? What has it taken away from your life?

A child I have loved since my best friend adopted him has recently "come out" as a trans man at age 22. Guess what? I still love him just as much as when I thought he was a girl. I only want him to be happy and fulfilled in his life. I will never understand what it feels like to be trans, but what right do I have to decide for him what his life should be? Why would I do that to someone I love?



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JazzGal said:
I've just got to ask - why does it matter to any of you if someone says they are a different gender than you believe they are? How does it hurt you? Why can't a little compassion, kindness and understanding replace judgment and some weird need to tell others how they should live their lives? Honestly, why does it bother you so much? What has it taken away from your life?

A child I have loved since my best friend adopted him has recently "come out" as a trans man at age 22. Guess what? I still love him just as much as when I thought he was a girl. I only want him to be happy and fulfilled in his life. I will never understand what it feels like to be trans, but what right do I have to decide for him what his life should be? Why would I do that to someone I love?



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I agree with this. I don’t think government should be banning trans people from anything (especially children) and if certain leagues would like to have certain stipulations on adults that’s up to them, not the government. I would never show any hate or ill will towards anyone transgender knowing, meeting, talking to, or interacting with. But if we’re having a conversation about reality in regards to biology and what is/isn’t at play here I’m not going to pretend these giant twists and turns and re-routing semantics and conversations in spirals to act like something is that isn’t reality. Men and women exist. Different sexes, exist. A gender spectrum of masculine and feminine also exists. But what you’re saying is really the point of what some of these nonsensical arguments are. Do I really think people like One Brow are under the delusional nonsense that men are not men and women are not women? No I don’t. I think at the root they just want transgender individuals to be loved, and treated fairly and kindly, and they should be. But that doesn’t mean in a conversation about society, biology, or just simple logical thought that a spoon feeding of semantic delusional ******** is just going to be eaten like candy. Trans people are people and should always be treated with love and respect. They should get treatments as they see fit or what will make them feel more fulfilled in life.
 
Why do I have the feeling that this is more about telling the LGBT community where to go than about preserving women’s sports?

 
gandalfe said:
Wow. I just looked at what oneye said.

Yup, keeping him and his 1950's mentality on blinvisible.
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Yep, all the sudden he drops the mask and we see what he's really been saying this entire time.
 
The Thriller said:
Why do I have the feeling that this is more about telling the LGBT community where to go than about preserving women’s sports?

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For some politicians and those who are anti-LGBTQ+, it certainly is just hate. But here’s the thing, plenty of people can be perfectly kind and loving to transgender people and also acknowledge biology and men and women exist. I don’t need to believe the semantic twisted nonsense someone like One Brow spews to be kind or caring about another person. Trying to use such delusional nonsense doesn’t help the case that these people should be treated with the same kindness and respect of any other human being because they should. For instance in the legislative hearing yesterday when one of the state Senators said “There’s no way of knowing the difference of a man or woman” there’s a reason people scoff at that and think the person saying it is entirely insane and agenda driven themselves.
 
Gameface said:
Yep, all the sudden he drops the mask and we see what he's really been saying this entire time.
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For some sure, they’re doing it out of hate. And then there’s most people who simply don’t think just accepting delusion and denial of basic biology is helpful as a society.
 
oneye said:
For some politicians and those who are anti-LGBTQ+, it certainly is just hate. But here’s the thing, plenty of people can be perfectly kind and loving to transgender people and also acknowledge biology and men and women exist. I don’t need to believe the semantic twisted nonsense someone like One Brow spews to be kind or caring about another person. Trying to use such delusional nonsense doesn’t help the case that these people should be treated with the same kindness and respect of any other human being because they should. For instance in the legislative hearing yesterday when one of the state Senators said “There’s no way of knowing the difference of a man or woman” there’s a reason people scoff at that and think the person saying it is entirely insane and agenda driven themselves.
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So you're willing to "play along" with a person claiming a gender that they are not just to keep the peace, just to preserve their "delusion."

Yeah we heard you the first time.
 
oneye said:
What you’re saying just isn’t reality.
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At least I can explain and justify my positions. All you're doing is saying I'm lying, and without a single bit of evidence you can bring to back that up. Your position is nothing but hollow assertions. It might as well be a religion.
 
Darkwing Duck said:
You know, in all my anthropology classes in college, I don't remember ever coming across the concept "gender spectrum."

I wonder why that was...
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What concepts did you come across? Female and male?
 
oneye said:
For instance in the legislative hearing yesterday when one of the state Senators said “There’s no way of knowing the difference of a man or woman” there’s a reason people scoff at that and think the person saying it is entirely insane and agenda driven themselves.
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Ya I mean if an archeologist dug up the bones of a once male who transitioned to a female and was tasked with determining whether the bones came from a female or male then it wouldn't matter what the person self identified as. The archeologist would simply come to the conclusion that the bones were from a male human.
 
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