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Trey Lyles Summer League highlights...

Some of the stuff he's done in Summer League reminds me of Rashard Lewis. Now let's see how much of it translates to the real competition.
I was a little bit confused how little of his drives resulted in assists given that his court vision had been praised so highly before he came to the NBA.
 
BTP said:
Some of the stuff he's done in Summer League reminds me of Rashard Lewis. Now let's see how much of it translates to the real competition.
I was a little bit confused how little of his drives resulted in assists given that his court vision had been praised so highly before he came to the NBA.
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Are you talking about Summer League or last season? Because it is obvious is Summer League he has the green light to just score. Test his boundaries, I don't think he cares about kicking it out to Butterfield and Paige all that much.
 
MDAV28 said:
Are you talking about Summer League or last season? Because it is obvious is Summer League he has the green light to just score. Test his boundaries, I don't think he cares about kicking it out to Butterfield and Paige all that much.
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I'd argue against that he cared to pass it to the Harrison brothers in college, who are probably worse than Marcus Paige. He passed it to Marcus Lee, who's probably gonna be a rim protector in Europe, he passed to Dakari Johnson, who is probably a 3rd Center on a roster.

https://youtu.be/bwJxp46V1Do?t=302
 
King Cy said:
Why does Okafor fall to #8?

I know people aren't in love with him, but 18 and 7 as a rookie. To me he is the 3rd pick in a redraft.
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But can you win with Okafor as your starting 4 or 5? I'm not a fan mostly because I watched Jefferson and Kanter give up 100 layups a game for 4, 5ish years. Okafor reminds me a lot of them defensively. I don't think he'll ever start on a good defensive team. But who knows, maybe he's prove me wrong.
 
framer said:
Keep in mind that Lyles shot 40% in total last year on catch and shoot 3's. He has improved immensely since then. How do you stop a 6'10" dude that can shoot and move like that at such a young age? I'm starting to believe that he's your superstar that you have been wanting. If he can fix his shot so effortlessly, I suspect he can learn his defensive positioning too. How the Hell did he fly under the radar like he did?
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thank Cal and his over-abundance of talent. only 1 ball to go around.
 
Tom Pitt said:
But can you win with Okafor as your starting 4 or 5? I'm not a fan mostly because I watched Jefferson and Kanter give up 100 layups a game for 4, 5ish years. Okafor reminds me a lot of them defensively. I don't think he'll ever start on a good defensive team. But who knows, maybe he's prove me wrong.
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Okafor is potentially better than either of them offensively and he can pass. He has enough defensive potential to be an average defender.
 
fishonjazz said:
Is okafors ceiling big al Jefferson?
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I think (assuming he stays healthy) Al Jefferson is Okafors floor. His rookie year is already on par or better than many of Big Al's and much further along than he was as a rookie. Al's career average is 16.7 points on .498 shooting. Okafor his first year was 17.5 points on .508.
 
BTP said:
I'd argue against that he cared to pass it to the Harrison brothers in college, who are probably worse than Marcus Paige. He passed it to Marcus Lee, who's probably gonna be a rim protector in Europe, he passed to Dakari Johnson, who is probably a 3rd Center on a roster.

https://youtu.be/bwJxp46V1Do?t=302
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Point being his game was opened up considering he may be the only NBA player on this roster and you aren't really playing for anything. I wouldn't look too much into his "drive and kicks" when he obviously is looking to score every possession and has a history in college and last season of being a heads-up passer.
 
John Calipari: Phil Jackson is Interested in Trey Lyles - Daily Knicks

18 de jun de 2015 - According to Kentucky Wildcats head coach John Calipari, New York Knicks team president Phil Jackson likes the idea of Trey Lyles in the ...
 
BTP said:
Some of the stuff he's done in Summer League reminds me of Rashard Lewis. Now let's see how much of it translates to the real competition.
I was a little bit confused how little of his drives resulted in assists given that his court vision had been praised so highly before he came to the NBA.
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Interesting comparison. I do see some of the similarities. Mr. Lewis was a pretty prolific scorer in his hey day. Let's hope Lyles can be that as too...well with a modicum of defense thrown in.

MDAV28 said:
Because it is obvious is Summer League he has the green light to just score. Test his boundaries, I don't think he cares about kicking it out to Butterfield and Paige all that much.
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True.

https://www.sltrib.com/home/4115039-155/utah-jazz-for-one-summer-league

The Utah Jazz wanted to put Trey Lyles in position to fail. In case you are wondering, that's a good thing.

As the leader of Utah's summer league roster and the only player who will be in Quin Snyder's rotation next season, Jazz brass wanted Lyles to test himself. They wanted him handling the ball as much as possible, to create for himself and others. At the end of games, they wanted him to take the money shots. They set him up to push his overall game past its limits, to create new ones.

They wanted him to be the first option in almost everything they did.

"That's helped me out a lot," Lyles said. "You're not going to be successful in everything you do in this league. So the key is to get better in everything you do and be comfortable in everything you do. I appreciate that they've had confidence in me from a fundamental standpoint. I feel like I've gotten better this summer."

Overall, Lyles has exhibited exactly what the Jazz have wanted to see out of him. He's taken the reins of a summer league roster mostly devoid of NBA players and put it on his back. The standout scoring games have been noteworthy, especially the 30 points and nine rebounds he put up against the Portland Trail Blazers on Tuesday afternoon.

But if you look beyond the scoring, you'll see more intricate improvement in Lyles' overall skillset, which was already pretty varied as a rookie in the first place. Lyles was able to create a good shot for himself off the dribble with relative ease. He was able to find his way to the free-throw line with regularity. In the Utah summer league, he struggled a bit with his efficiency, but that hasn't been as much of an issue in the Las Vegas summer league.

Lyles was also given carte blanche to rebound the ball and start transition opportunities himself, a departure from his rookie season. It's been an effort to take advantage of his ball-handling and offensive versatility.

"What you see out there is a kid that played the wing when he was at Kentucky and is now a power forward playing against other power forwards," Jazz summer league coach Mike Wells said. "What you are seeing is his ability to make reads and make plays. He's come a long way as a rookie, and he's making another step this summer."

Lyles enjoyed what was an impressive in-season jump in his first year with the Jazz. He went from a relative non-shooter to one who consistently knocked down 3-pointers from the corner. He went from knocking down corner threes to making threes above the break (top of the key extended), something that was unforeseen even by the front office.

Part of his development came because both Derrick Favors and Rudy Gobert missed significant time with injuries last season. So Lyles was counted on to contribute out of need, and he responded when pressed into service.

"I definitely think I've gotten better as a basketball player," Lyles said. "I've gotten more vocal as a teammate, and I've gotten more confident in my ability to play freely within the offense."

As a defender, Lyles has work to do. There were matchups in Las Vegas where he struggled, especially in terms of pure strength. But the Jazz envision Lyles as the first big man off the bench this upcoming season, and a stylistic complement to Derrick Favors and Rudy Gobert.

That's why, although they wanted him back with the team, the Jazz allowed Trevor Booker to sign with the Booklyn Nets in free agency. Lyles has truly been dominant at times offensively. In addition to the 30 he dropped on the Trail Blazers, he had 28 points on 7-of-16 shooting against the Washington Wizards on Sunday. He's been far and away the leading scorer for the Jazz, and he's been one of the best players in Las Vegas.

And that's exactly what the Jazz wanted. They put him in position to fail, and are happy that he succeeded.

"I think this has been a good summer," Lyles said. "I've wanted to work on everything and just try to get better at everything."
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Thanks for the article VINYLONE. I love how the Jazz have handled Trey Lyles this summer. It's exactly how I think they should run their D-league team as well. Fill the team with savvy veterans, athletic fringe players and one or two legitimate developmental players. Hand the reigns of the Stars over to those developmental guys and let them learn through both success and failure. Then add their contribution to the overall team dynamic of the Jazz next year. Hoping to see Joel Bolomboy in that role this year.
 
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