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Trump and Putin in Helsinki

Bulletproof said:
So because Trump supporters believe the "deep state" in conjunction with the fake news media is out to get their guy they have made themselves okay with the U.S. President siding with Putin over our own intelligence community?

So the U.S. is worth nothing? Our intelligence community is more an enemy of "making America great again" than Putin and Russian intelligence is? Our nation, in all it's pathetic pre-Trumpian shame, is equally at fault for our poor relationship with Russia as Russia is? It is in the best interests of the average American citizen for Trump to criticise his own team, his own people, his own institutions, while praising the leader of a mob-like administration in Russia?

It's okay for you Trump supporters to say people are overreacting. I get that. But for you to not react at all? For this to be perfectly normal and perfectly okay? Trump is doing well in his quest to "make America great again."

This may not be something we need to panic about, but it certainly isn't something we should be okay with.
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Do you honestly believe our intelligence community deserves the least bit of praise right now?



I don't see how anyone can watch that and not be disgusted by them, HC, Obama, and the DNC, and see the enemy from within that attempted to undermine our elections. This isnt limited to Russia and external forces. We need to look at ourselves too.
 


Just a reminder, the Gazette attack killing five DC reporters was just 22 days ago.

And I love trump’s projection here. He’s the one losing it. He’s been in a freefall since he was forced to reverse himself on the caging immigrant kids. Since then he’s been flaying from one crisis to another. Clearly, through law enforcement, the media reporting facts, and his own self-inflicted wounds he senses that there’s blood in the water.

You can’t blame the public for being concerned over these seemingly unending scandals.
 
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Why would every house republican today vote against funding to improve the security of our voting machines?



And this video is moving. Democrats erupt in chants of USA USA USA while republicans sit on their asses and vote against improving security. Why would they do that? It’s almost as if they are admitting that they can’t win without Russian help
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
Do you honestly believe our intelligence community deserves the least bit of praise right now?



I don't see how anyone can watch that and not be disgusted by them, HC, Obama, and the DNC, and see the enemy from within that attempted to undermine our elections. This isnt limited to Russia and external forces. We need to look at ourselves too.
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I've never been opposed to Hillary being investigated, charged if warranted.

That video contains a lot of allegations. If they can be substantiated then who's stopping an investigation at this time? Obama is not the President. Hillary holds no official position in the U.S. government. Comey, McCabe have been forced out of the DOJ/FBI. So if there is actual, verifiable evidence to support those allegations who is it right now who is stopping the investigation into those matters? The Republican President of the U.S.? The Republican Attorney General? The Republican Senate? The Republican Congress?

Or is it that the allegations, as blood boiling as you seem to find them, are in substance not strong?
 
Bulletproof said:
I've never been opposed to Hillary being investigated, charged if warranted.

That video contains a lot of allegations. If they can be substantiated then who's stopping an investigation at this time? Obama is not the President. Hillary holds no official position in the U.S. government. Comey, McCabe have been forced out of the DOJ/FBI. So if there is actual, verifiable evidence to support those allegations who is it right now who is stopping the investigation into those matters? The Republican President of the U.S.? The Republican Attorney General? The Republican Senate? The Republican Congress?

Or is it that the allegations, as blood boiling as you seem to find them, are in substance not strong?
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They all have dirt on each other, and put on an appearance of being enemies. That's a requirement to rise to the top. See how it works? Only the corruptible are allowed to rise to the top is their strategy, then they can control them. It's not absolutes but maybe you get my jist.
 
Pretty sure Hillary has already been investigated... multiple times. Nothing illegal has been found.

Does the house really need to investigate her for the 16th time?

Talk about nothingburgers. Sheesh
 
The Thriller said:
Pretty sure Hillary has already been investigated... multiple times. Nothing illegal has been found.

Does the house really need to investigate her for the 16th time?

Talk about nothingburgers. Sheesh
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Things have been found. She had a private email server, she sent classified emails from that server.

What has never been established is whether or not there was any nefarious purpose behind having the private email server or if it was done simply out of carelessness, ignorance, for convenience or plain disregard for the regulations regarding official emails.
 
Bulletproof said:
Things have been found. She had a private email server, she sent classified emails from that server.

What has never been established is whether or not there was any nefarious purpose behind having the private email server or if it was done simply out of carelessness, ignorance, for convenience or plain disregard for the regulations regarding official emails.
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Yeah that was cleared up in July of 2016 when he (FBI Director James Comey) called her "extremely careless." Then in October 2016 they discovered Huma Abedin's laptop opening the door for potential emails that had not previously been reviewed. They reviewed them and discovered that they were the same ones they had already investigated previously. She was cleared of any malicious or illegal activity.

Clinton was careless but was not malicious. Ironically, her email server was the most secure of locations now that you think about it. Imagine if she had been using the DNC's server?! Trump would've had all of those emails in addition to the ones Russia stole and then gave to his campaign.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/p...-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system
 
Bulletproof said:
I've never been opposed to Hillary being investigated, charged if warranted.

That video contains a lot of allegations. If they can be substantiated then who's stopping an investigation at this time? Obama is not the President. Hillary holds no official position in the U.S. government. Comey, McCabe have been forced out of the DOJ/FBI. So if there is actual, verifiable evidence to support those allegations who is it right now who is stopping the investigation into those matters? The Republican President of the U.S.? The Republican Attorney General? The Republican Senate? The Republican Congress?

Or is it that the allegations, as blood boiling as you seem to find them, are in substance not strong?
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You didn't answer my question. Do you or don't you honestly believe our intelligence community deserves praise right now?
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
You didn't answer my question. Do you or don't you honestly believe our intelligence community deserves praise right now?
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I don't know enough to answer the question and your video wasn't useful to help me make any sort of assessment.

But you've heard the thing where I can call my brother an ******* but if you call my brother an ******* we've got a problem.

Trump sided with an adversary over his own team. If we've got issues with our intelligence community we deal with it in house, not by aligning with the KGB.
 
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