Ultimate Tank Trade Master Plan

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The advantage of having Russ is you could have some actually talented players and he'll counteract the goodness with his incredible inefficiencies.

Actual kind of disagree.

I would hate to have Russ. I think Russ is still 100% capable of playing good Russ-Ball and taking a team to play-in status.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think if we moved Donovan and Rudy you could net 3 top 10 picks this year and load up a few extras for the future.

The. You move Mike, Bogey, Toyce in an LA deal but nab Russ, THT, and Nunn… and get two unprotected firsts… you waive and stretch Russ to get under the tax… the hit takes 2 additional years but we will end up having more cap space than we can meaningfully use. That way we don’t suck value out of trades to drop salary this year.

Load up with premium picks this year and get a couple extras… tank for a couple years and we will be setup better than we have in the last 15-20 years.

I'd rather have more future picks than picks this year.

This year isnt a great draft for high end talent. I don't see a lot of potential out there in terms of All-Stars. This is more a role player draft.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Trade Mitchell to the Kings for #4 and multiple 1sts. Take one of those FRPs and trade up with Houston to #3 for Banchero.

Trade Gobert to the Hawks for Hunter/Collins. Move Collins to Portland or Detroit and take back Portland's #7 for either Collins or Jerami Grant. Draft Eason or Sharpe at #7.

Now you've got Sharpe, Hunter and Banchero as the new core. Lose games next year and add another lottery pick in a strong draft.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'd rather have more future picks than picks this year.

This year isnt a great draft for high end talent. I don't see a lot of potential out there in terms of All-Stars. This is more a role player draft.

I like a lot of the guys from 4-17ish. They may end up as good starters but I could see a bunch of Mikal Bridges type wins.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I'd rather have more future picks than picks this year.

This year isnt a great draft for high end talent. I don't see a lot of potential out there in terms of All-Stars. This is more a role player draft.

Banchero, Ivey and Sharpe are potential All Stars, imo. Jabari and Chet too ofc.

 

[Shad]

I'd do the Donovan to the Knicks for 6 1st rounders and the Rudy trade I'd do also. What's that then 11 1st rounders to go full tank from a 1st round playoff bust?

 

[Rubashov]

Can somebody photoshop Westbrick on this Panzer IV please?

 

[The Fresh Prince]

Why are we so quick to give up on our core already?

 

[Rubashov]

Why are we so quick to give up on our core already?

Because 3 first round and 3 second round playoff exits are not good enough and more importantly its not like we got beat by great teams, the squad is going backwards.

 

[str8line]

Love the idea of grenading this team for a bunch of top picks. Might even do it just for the first interview with Russ after he finds out he's been traded to the Jazz.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Love the idea of grenading this team for a bunch of top picks. Might even do it just for the first interview with Russ after he finds out he's been traded to the Jazz.

It would be funny if he actually opted out of his contract after being traded to Utah.

 

[outerspacefan]

FO=Danny,Justin
C=this_guy
D=down

[no sarcasm]
fu_ck (FO);
hire (C);
tear_it (D);
[end]

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

It would be funny if he actually opted out of his contract after being traded to Utah.

Danny schedules a meeting... Russ' agent tells him not to give anything back and we will work out a buyout.

Danny starts off "Here's how we envision you coming off the bench and helping out off ball..." Russ interrupts "I'm opting out peace..." Danny smiles deviously.

 

[stormkoopacv03]

As long there are some major moves, it'd be good. If they do the whole 'run it back' scenario again, I would personally drive to slc and kick all of FO a**es.

 

[The Fresh Prince]

Because 3 first round and 3 second round playoff exits are not good enough and more importantly its not like we got beat by great teams, the squad is going backwards.

We have plenty of pieces to move around to create another strong team. Anyways it's what Ainge wants to do. TIA.

 

[NUMBERICA]

We have plenty of pieces to move around to create another strong team. Anyways it's what Ainge wants to do. TIA.

We have:
-an ancient point guard that is literally one of the smallest players in the entire league on a pretty big contract
-a really good forward who most would label a stiff on an expiring contract
-a dude that will shoot you out of more games than games he really helps win.
-a “defensive specialist” who can’t stay with guards or fight through screens. And who is basically a 0 on offense.
-two dudes that are the only ones worth building around that dislike each other. One is on a super max contract and basically 30 and the other is a spoiled to **** snake that refuses to play defense.
-one of the only dudes in the league as old as the aforementioned ancient tiny PG
-a PG that can’t shoot and is scared to do anything besides play D and move the ball
-A guard that Quin won’t play
-Ubroka
-basically no picks to grease deals

Improving this team - that has a totally broken locker room and a checked out coach - today would be an incredible achievement. This build was burned black at the end of the regular season, and now is burned to white ash. It shouldn’t be hard to find a team desperate enough to take on some of our pieces, but you usually need picks or young players to upgrade the vets you’re sending out.

 

[Rubashov]

We have:
-an ancient point guard that is literally one of the smallest players in the entire league on a pretty big contract
-a really good forward who most would label a stiff on an expiring contract
-a dude that will shoot you out of more games than games he really helps win.
-a “defensive specialist” who can’t stay with guards or fight through screens. And who is basically a 0 on offense.
-two dudes that are the only ones worth building around that dislike each other. One is on a super max contract and basically 30 and the other is a spoiled to **** snake that refuses to play defense.
-one of the only dudes in the league as old as the aforementioned ancient tiny PG
-a PG that can’t shoot and is scared to do anything besides play D and move the ball
-A guard that Quin won’t play
-Ubroka
-basically no picks to grease deals

Improving this team - that has a totally broken locker room and a checked out coach - today would be an incredible achievement. This build was burned black at the end of the regular season, and now is burned to white ash. It shouldn’t be hard to find a team desperate enough to take on some of our pieces, but you usually need picks or young players to upgrade the vets you’re sending out.

Excellent post. Now hide that analysis from the opposition...

 

[The Fresh Prince]

If we tank we better hope we can retain what we get in the draft. If a tank blows up in our face we might be finding our franchise in another state in the next 5-10 years.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Excellent post. Now hide that analysis from the opposition...

This reminded me of the Suns trade talks with Ayton coming up…

“Hey we don’t believe in paying centers and think this guy is a little flaky… buuuuuutttt…. We’d like to get a lot for him in trade so what ya got?”

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If we tank we better hope we can retain what we get in the draft. If a tank blows up in our face we might be finding our franchise in another state in the next 5-10 years.

Why?

Utah should be one of the better insulated teams against fans leaving because of a tank. What the **** everyone in Utah going to do? Watch soccer?