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Utah Jazz: #5 in Youth Talent

Justys said:
I can see that but I'd rather have the youth that the jazz have. We have depth at every position. N.O has some big question marks and have made some stupid decisions. Gordon's knee, drafting Rivers, Signing Evans (what position), trading Lopez (for Evans) to give up a 1st for Omer, no SF, and the Holiday trade (noel, 11th pick) looks questionable.
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As a Pelicans fan I agree. And I'd add that I think Anthony Davis is being vastly overrated. Good player with some raw ability to be really good, but he is far to average to below average at too many areas of the game to think he'll ever be on the same level as the better player in the league. I watch him all the time as a Pelicans fan and I just don't get the insane hype.
 
da ThRONe said:
As a Pelicans fan I agree. And I'd add that I think Anthony Davis is being vastly overrated. Good player with some raw ability to be really good, but he is far to average to below average at too many areas of the game to think he'll ever be on the same level as the better player in the league. I watch him all the time as a Pelicans fan and I just don't get the insane hype.
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I agree to this. But I saw a lot of potential in him, youth and willingness. And less superstar spoiledness.

How do you see him side by side to Aşık?
 
da ThRONe said:
As a Pelicans fan I agree. And I'd add that I think Anthony Davis is being vastly overrated. Good player with some raw ability to be really good, but he is far to average to below average at too many areas of the game to think he'll ever be on the same level as the better player in the league. I watch him all the time as a Pelicans fan and I just don't get the insane hype.
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21 and 10 on 52% FGs, 26.54 PER, league leader in blocked shots at age 20. :eek: To each his own, imo, hard to overrate that.

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seattlejazzfan said:
21 and 10 on 52% FGs, 26.54 PER, league leader in blocked shots at age 20. :eek: To each his own, imo, hard to overrate that.

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Numbers IMO aren't a good barometer for overall greatness. You have to take into consideration what the team does and who else is on the team. Most NBA players can score if an offense is tailored to them and they don't have to really share the ball with other talented players looking to score. We were a terrible rebounding team that were without much of the scoring power we thought we would have due to injuries.

Davis is a player that was just in the prefect situation (a lot of that is his own talent) to be efficient. He's long and has good IQ and feel for the game so he gets a solid number of steals and a insane number of blocks. PER is friendly to those kind of measurable defensives stats. However Davis is a below average post and perimeter defender there's no stat to reflex that. On offense he's more of a PNR option than he is as an iso option. Decent face up, sub par post game, and below average jump shooter. He doesn't have great feet so the majority of the time when he's aggressive with the ball he ends up with an off balance shot when facing up or working out of the post. He's been able to some what off set his lack of coordination with his quick 1st step and great touch near the basket. Again he's good and when you have that much physical talent it's hard to really say what his overall potential is, but I don't recall players with poor coordination becoming greatly skilled offensively.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
21 and 10 on 52% FGs, 26.54 PER, league leader in blocked shots at age 20. :eek: To each his own, imo, hard to overrate that.

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AD is a stud. However, I think Utah will jump in the ratings once Quin unleashes Hood, Gobert, Burks and Exum on teams and restores Hayward's game and confidence. Burke is likely dragging our ratings down. Replace him with Neto and we're easily #2 (sarcasm alert on that last line).

Seriously, who knows? Philadelphia could easily be #1.
 
addictionary said:
I agree to this. But I saw a lot of potential in him, youth and willingness. And less superstar spoiledness.

How do you see him side by side to Aşık?
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Asik is a great complement to Davis defensively. Davis weakness is in the post and that Asik strength. Omer will allow Anthony to roam on defensive and help him avoid banging against more physical guys. I expect a significant dip in Davis' rebounding as Asik is great there as well and the 2nd best rebounder on the team last year was our SF Aminu.

The concern is offensively. Davis is an OK jumpshooter, but most of his damage is done in the PNR as the roll man. Asik can't shot and won't force anybody out of the paint. Davis is have to get much more consistent with his jumper if he wants to see anywhere near the same numbers offensively. Which is just naturally likely to dip if guys stay healthy. All reports is Anthony is trying to add a corner 3 to his game. He'll need it when he's on the floor with Asik.
 
da ThRONe said:
Asik is a great complement to Davis defensively. Davis weakness is in the post and that Asik strength. Omer will allow Anthony to roam on defensive and help him avoid banging against more physical guys. I expect a significant dip in Davis' rebounding as Asik is great there as well and the 2nd best rebounder on the team last year was our SF Aminu.

The concern is offensively. Davis is an OK jumpshooter, but most of his damage is done in the PNR as the roll man. Asik can't shot and won't force anybody out of the paint. Davis is have to get much more consistent with his jumper if he wants to see anywhere near the same numbers offensively. Which is just naturally likely to dip if guys stay healthy. All reports is Anthony is trying to add a corner 3 to his game. He'll need it when he's on the floor with Asik.
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There were many rumors coming from the newsfeed guys watching USA practices that indicated AD did have a sweet touch from 3 and a good stroke added to that.
 
da ThRONe said:
As a Pelicans fan I agree. And I'd add that I think Anthony Davis is being vastly overrated. Good player with some raw ability to be really good, but he is far to average to below average at too many areas of the game to think he'll ever be on the same level as the better player in the league. I watch him all the time as a Pelicans fan and I just don't get the insane hype.
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da ThRONe said:
Numbers IMO aren't a good barometer for overall greatness. You have to take into consideration what the team does and who else is on the team. Most NBA players can score if an offense is tailored to them and they don't have to really share the ball with other talented players looking to score. We were a terrible rebounding team that were without much of the scoring power we thought we would have due to injuries.

Davis is a player that was just in the prefect situation (a lot of that is his own talent) to be efficient. He's long and has good IQ and feel for the game so he gets a solid number of steals and a insane number of blocks. PER is friendly to those kind of measurable defensives stats. However Davis is a below average post and perimeter defender there's no stat to reflex that. On offense he's more of a PNR option than he is as an iso option. Decent face up, sub par post game, and below average jump shooter. He doesn't have great feet so the majority of the time when he's aggressive with the ball he ends up with an off balance shot when facing up or working out of the post. He's been able to some what off set his lack of coordination with his quick 1st step and great touch near the basket. Again he's good and when you have that much physical talent it's hard to really say what his overall potential is, but I don't recall players with poor coordination becoming greatly skilled offensively.
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da ThRONe said:
Asik is a great complement to Davis defensively. Davis weakness is in the post and that Asik strength. Omer will allow Anthony to roam on defensive and help him avoid banging against more physical guys. I expect a significant dip in Davis' rebounding as Asik is great there as well and the 2nd best rebounder on the team last year was our SF Aminu.

The concern is offensively. Davis is an OK jumpshooter, but most of his damage is done in the PNR as the roll man. Asik can't shot and won't force anybody out of the paint. Davis is have to get much more consistent with his jumper if he wants to see anywhere near the same numbers offensively. Which is just naturally likely to dip if guys stay healthy. All reports is Anthony is trying to add a corner 3 to his game. He'll need it when he's on the floor with Asik.
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LMFAO

Bro. Just stop.

He isn't overrated.

AD is a future HOF in the making.
 
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