Utah`s options this summer

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  1. Hedda Gambler

    Hedda Gambler Well-Known Member

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    I posted this on Reddit just now. The content should be of interest to most Jazz fans. If the moderators feel that this does not warrant it`s own thread, please merge with the Conley trade-thread.

    This is a post about the possibilities the Utah Jazz have for creating financial flexibility this summer. Everything here is based on my own calculations. If I have made mistakes, please correct me so that I can fix them.

    With the Conley trade, the Utah Jazz roster looks pretty set for next season. As the deal is constructed now, Utah is taking Conley into cap space. The only way for the Jazz to create space is to decline the $16,9 offer they have on Derrick Favors. The team seem to really like Favors, so this does not seem likely.

    There is a way for Utah to regain financial flexility this summer. To achieve this, they have to find a team to take on Exum and Niang. Whether or not there is a team willing to take these two into capspace without getting much else back is an open question. For the purpose of this thread, we assume that there is a team willing to do this.

    The Conley trade will have to be modified to a 3 team trade. The deal between the Grizzlies and Jazz stay the same while the 3rd team takes on Exum and Niang.

    With these two players going out, the total outgoing salary from Utah is $26,5 million. This is enough to be within the 125% + 100k range of Conley`s contract and the Jazz no longer take Conley into their cap space, but via trade rules.

    If the Jazz renounce the cap holds of Rubio, Sefolosha and Udoh, they will go into free agency with about $25 million in cap space. This can be used to sign a player like Al Horford, who would give them a front court rotation of Gobert, Favors and Horford.

    If the Jazz renounce the cap holds of Sefolosha and Udoh, but not Rubio, they can make the Conley trade and offer Rubio a 1 year $24 million deal. With that salary, the Jazz can make a trade for a player making $30 million. Hello, Kevin Love?

    The Jazz basically have to decide if they want to keep Exum or improve the team in other areas. If they keep him, they are pretty much set going forward. If they feel they can get better by moving him, there are possibilities to explore.
     
  2. Ron Mexico

    Ron Mexico Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Dumping Niang and Exum for nothing would create about 13 or 14 million in space if we renounced everyone's rights.

    Rubio has to be renounced for the Conley trade to go through.

    Jazz are not going to salary so dump Exum or Niang though. They value them higher than that. Unless for some crazy reason a really good FA wants to come here and is willing to sign for cheap.
     
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  3. Wes Mantooth

    Wes Mantooth Well-Known Member

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    My fear with dumping Exum is how thin we’d be at guard in a league that is now all about small ball.
     
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  4. Hedda Gambler

    Hedda Gambler Well-Known Member

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    This is wrong. The whole point of this concept is for the Jazz to trade for Conley via the 125% + 100k trade rule and not into cap space. By doing this, they can use the cap space they have when FA opens and sign a player before the trade is completed.
     
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  5. Wes Mantooth

    Wes Mantooth Well-Known Member

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    “If the Jazz renounce the cap holds of Rubio, Sefolosha and Udoh, they will go into free agency with about $25 million in cap space.”

    Huh? This is not true.
     
  6. JFFR

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    I was just wondering if the Jazz had "Bird rights" to Rubio. Are you guys saying they had to renounce those to bring Conley over?

    How the heck are you supposed to learn all the nuances of the NBA salary cap structure. Is there a YouTube video anywhere that explains it?
     
  7. JFFR

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    Andy Larsen's article on sltrib says the Jazz had to renounce Rubio's rights.
     
  8. Hedda Gambler

    Hedda Gambler Well-Known Member

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    The trade is not happening until July 6th. This roster below is the one we take into FA if we renounce the cap holds for those 3 players. I see now that I made one mistake by forgetting about Crowder. This ****s up my whole premise since only 18,31 million is left in cap space.

    Gobert 25,008
    Favors 16,9
    Ingles 11,955
    Exum 9,6
    Mitchell 3,636
    Neto 2,15
    Bradley 1,962
    Niang 1,645
    O` Neale 1,619
    Korver 7,5
    Crowder 7,815
    ROSTER HOLD 0,9
     
  9. Ron Mexico

    Ron Mexico Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Yes, if we maintain his bird rights he has a salary cap hold that makes the trade not possible due to us being over the cap.
     
  10. Ron Mexico

    Ron Mexico Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Mike Conley's contract is 32.5. That is not within the 125% 100k rule of those players either. It's close. I guess if you included Bradley as well.
     
  11. Hedda Gambler

    Hedda Gambler Well-Known Member

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    Exum 9,6
    Crowder 7,816
    Korver 7,5
    Niang 1,645

    26,561 million. This *1,25 + 100k is 33,201 million. Conley is making 32,511 million next year.
     
  12. colton

    colton All Around Nice Guy Staff Member

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    Yes, since the trade as currently framed does not match salaries, the Jazz must be under the cap in order for it to happen. The only way to get under the cap is to renounce Rubio. And that causes the Jazz to lose his Bird rights.

    Yes, NBA salary stuff is complicated.
     
  13. Ron Mexico

    Ron Mexico Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Oh, you're right.

    The fact that jazz chose to send a 1st instead of Exum in the trade makes this a pointless discussion though. They aren't suddenly going to throw in Exum and Niang now.
     
  14. colton

    colton All Around Nice Guy Staff Member

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    Or else Memphis said thanks but no thanks to Exum and his contract.
     
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    Pouyan Well-Known Member

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    He's hardly on the court regardless if we do keep him.
     
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  16. Ron Mexico

    Ron Mexico Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Possibly but based on the fact that he was the reason the deal didn't go through last time because we wouldn't include him makes that less likely.
     
  17. colton

    colton All Around Nice Guy Staff Member

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    As far as I know that was only rumored, never confirmed (correct me if I'm wrong), plus Exum had another significant injury after that point which very well might change their calculus.
     
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  18. TheStormofWar

    TheStormofWar Well-Known Member

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    Exum's knee issues weren't known about until after the deadline and Tony Jones reported that the Jazz weren't including Exum, so I consider it fact.
     
  19. colton

    colton All Around Nice Guy Staff Member

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    I'm confused, how does that make it fact? Is there any confirmation that Memphis was really pushing for Exum?
     
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  20. Wes Mantooth

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    It doesn’t have to be. We’re under the cap.
     

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