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fishonjazz said:
I just remember stuff like this when that war happened: A key motivation for U.S. foreign policy in the region has been the desire for a stable supply of oil from the Persian Gulf, of which Iraq holds a significant portion of global reserves. The invasion was viewed through this lens, with a long-term goal of stabilizing the region to ensure a reliable source of oil on the global market, rather than a direct takeover for profit.
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I also remember people saying "We're invading Iraq so we can take their oil" but that's just not how it works. Oil is a commodity and these countries are not hoarding their supply.
 
So they attacked a boat, there were a couple people who didn't die in the attack so they went back in to finish them off.

Orders to "leave no survivors" are ILLEGAL. It is a war crime by all definitions. Specifically, killing people whose boat/ship has been sunk is word for word prohibited.
 
Sardines said:
So they attacked a boat, there were a couple people who didn't die in the attack so they went back in to finish them off.

Orders to "leave no survivors" are ILLEGAL. It is a war crime by all definitions. Specifically, killing people whose boat/ship has been sunk is word for word prohibited.
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Also, if trump truly gave a **** about drug trafficking then why did he pardon the former honduran president who was convicted of receiving millions in bribes and partnering with cocaine traffickers? He was convicted in Manhattan in 2024 and sentenced to 45 years in prison.
 

President Trump announced on Friday afternoon that he would grant “a Full and Complete Pardon” to a former president of Honduras, Juan Orlando Hernández, who, as the center of a sweeping drug case, was found guilty by an American jury last year of conspiring to import cocaine into the United States.

“CONGRATULATIONS TO JUAN ORLANDO HERNANDEZ ON YOUR UPCOMING PARDON,” he wrote, minutes after he returned to his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, where he is spending the holiday weekend and took time out to visit his nearby golf club. “MAKE HONDURAS GREAT AGAIN!”

Mr. Trump has also weighed in on Honduras’s upcoming election, set for Sunday. He has endorsed a candidate, a former mayor named Nasry “Tito” Asfura from the conservative National Party, the same one that Mr. Hernández belongs to. Mr. Asfura had spent much of a highly contested race courting leaders in Washington, including members of Mr. Trump’s inner circle.
 
fishonjazz said:

President Trump announced on Friday afternoon that he would grant “a Full and Complete Pardon” to a former president of Honduras, Juan Orlando Hernández, who, as the center of a sweeping drug case, was found guilty by an American jury last year of conspiring to import cocaine into the United States.

“CONGRATULATIONS TO JUAN ORLANDO HERNANDEZ ON YOUR UPCOMING PARDON,” he wrote, minutes after he returned to his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, where he is spending the holiday weekend and took time out to visit his nearby golf club. “MAKE HONDURAS GREAT AGAIN!”

Mr. Trump has also weighed in on Honduras’s upcoming election, set for Sunday. He has endorsed a candidate, a former mayor named Nasry “Tito” Asfura from the conservative National Party, the same one that Mr. Hernández belongs to. Mr. Asfura had spent much of a highly contested race courting leaders in Washington, including members of Mr. Trump’s inner circle.
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Flabbergasted that he hasn't been impeached yet. Trump supporters are pieces of ****.
 
Sardines said:
So they attacked a boat, there were a couple people who didn't die in the attack so they went back in to finish them off.

Orders to "leave no survivors" are ILLEGAL. It is a war crime by all definitions. Specifically, killing people whose boat/ship has been sunk is word for word prohibited.
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Yep. Pete Hegseth needs to be charged with war crimes and tried in the Hague.


View: https://x.com/holly__heart/status/1994829255126155298



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Looking at you, Pete! War crimes much??

www.bbc.com

US lawmakers demand answers over Hegseth Venezuela boat strike reports

Concern over media reports that the US military carried out a second strike killing survivors on a suspected drug boat prompts a bipartisan inquiry.
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I don’t believe you, Donald.

www.theguardian.com

Trump ‘wouldn’t have wanted’ second strike on Caribbean boat survivors

US president says he will look into reports US military was told to conduct follow-up attack on suspected drug vessel
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Sardines said:
I also remember people saying "We're invading Iraq so we can take their oil" but that's just not how it works. Oil is a commodity and these countries are not hoarding their supply.
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No but they control the price at terms favourable to them not the consumer.
 
fishonjazz said:
Its kinda like the iraq war. We were lied to about WMD's so we could force a regime change and get us some oil.

Now we are being lied to about the drug trade so we can force a regime change and drill baby drill. Venezuela has the largest oil reserves in the world from what I hear.
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You're right Venezuela has the worlds largest known oil reserves. The Chavez/Maduro government was hugely popular for their first decade in power and were routinely democratically elected. I doubt elections these days are strictly democratic in Venezuela anymore tho. However what we must remember is almost from the first the CIA attempted to destabilise the Chavez government and backed several coups against them. Once it became clear that the government controlled the military the CIA has waged a financial war against Venezuela, firstly to destroy their currency and then to ruin their markets, this has been going on for close to 15 years.
 
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I noticed at Hegseth’s presser yesterday that he claimed, in so many words, the “narco-terrorists” we are killing are bringing drugs to the US “by boat”. Pretty misleading, as no outboard motor is going to take you 1000 miles to Florida without refueling many times. None of these boats are traveling to the shores of Florida. In the instance of the strike on 9/2/25, where the survivors were killed, the drugs were not even destined for the United States at all….



The drugs on the boat were most likely destined for Europe, not the United States:


The alleged drug traffickers killed by the US military in a strike on September 2 were heading to link up with another, larger vessel that was bound for Suriname — a small South American country east of Venezuela – the admiral who oversaw the operation told lawmakers on Thursday, according to two sources with direct knowledge of his remarks.

According to intelligence collected by US forces, the struck boat planned to “rendezvous” with the second vessel and transfer drugs to it, Adm. Frank Bradley said during the briefings, but the military was unable to locate the second vessel. Bradley argued there was still a possibility the drug shipment could have ultimately made its way from Suriname to the US, the sources said, telling lawmakers that justified striking the smaller boat even if it wasn’t directly heading to US shores at the time it was hit.

US drug enforcement officials say that trafficking routes via Suriname are primarily destined for European markets. US-bound drug trafficking routes have been concentrated on the Pacific Ocean in recent years.

The new detail adds yet another wrinkle to the Trump administration’s argument that striking the boat multiple times, and killing survivors, was necessary in order to protect the US from an imminent threat.
 
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