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The Donroe Doctrine.


It was clear after the release of the 2025 National Security Strategy that this administration was going to shred the inhibitions imposed by international law and opt for the more liberating costumery of gangsterism. In the Western Hemisphere, the United States would assert its muscle and dictate terms, as it has done previously, to countries in Latin America. Washington desired “a Hemisphere whose governments cooperate with us against narco-terrorists, cartels, and other transnational criminal organizations”, one “that remains free of hostile foreign incursion or ownership of key assets, and that supports critical supply chains” and ensured “continued access to key strategic locations. In other words, we will assert and enforce a ‘Trump Corollary’ to the Monroe Doctrine.”

Venezuela has become the first target of this corollary. On January 3, a little after 2 am local time, Caracas, and other sites in the country, were attacked by US forces as part of Operation Absolute Resolve. By 4:21 am, Trump announced that the Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro and his wife Cilia Flores had been captured. The Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Dan Caine, at a press conference held at the President’s Florida compound, spoke of, “An extraction so precise it involved more than 150 aircraft launching across the Western Hemisphere in close coordination, all coming together in time and place to layer effects for a single purpose, to get an interdiction force into downtown Caracas while maintaining the element of tactical surprise.”

We'll have somewhat of an excuse in the future that our foreign policy was subject to the whims of a profiteering, malignant narcissist madman. Of course by that time China will own Taiwan and Russia will own Ukraine since we'll have no standing to stop them.
 
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32:35 of the video is so ****ing spot on, especially the part about the Rapist at Mar-a-lago, so excited as the attention-whore he is, interrupting tv programming around to the world to stroke his malignant narcissist ego.
 
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The Venezuelan people seem pretty thrilled.

Whether this ends up being better or worse for the world who really knows

But for the people who hate Trump, anything he does is bad. He could cure cancer and i am pretty sure the NYT, CNN, the Atlantic, etc would he putting out pieces on why curing cancer is actually a terrible thing haha.

If Harris had won and she did this, you can't tell me they wouldn't be framing this in a positive light especially after they spent 4 years lying to us about Biden's cognitive health until it was so obvious he was in deep decline in the debate, that they knew they couldn't keep going on like that
 
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The Venezuelan people seem pretty thrilled.

Whether this ends up being better or worse for the world who really knows

But for the people who hate Trump, anything he does is bad. He could cure cancer and i am pretty sure the NYT, CNN, the Atlantic, etc would he putting out pieces on why curing cancer is actually a terrible thing haha.

If Harris had won and she did this, you can't tell me they wouldn't be framing this in a positive light especially after they spent 4 years lying to us about Biden's cognitive health until it was so obvious he was in deep decline in the debate, that they knew they couldn't keep going on like that
Maduro was horrible. He was a bad person. Nothing bad that could happen to him will be bad enough for what he deserves.
 
The Venezuelan people seem pretty thrilled.

Whether this ends up being better or worse for the world who really knows

But for the people who hate Trump, anything he does is bad. He could cure cancer and i am pretty sure the NYT, CNN, the Atlantic, etc would he putting out pieces on why curing cancer is actually a terrible thing haha.

If Harris had won and she did this, you can't tell me they wouldn't be framing this in a positive light especially after they spent 4 years lying to us about Biden's cognitive health until it was so obvious he was in deep decline in the debate, that they knew they couldn't keep going on like that
How do the reported 40 Venezuelan people who were killed during the raid feel about it? Are they thrilled? (Cuba has also reported they had 32 people killed during it.)

As for your idiotic hypothetical... it is both idiotic and hypothetical and deserves no more discussion that that.
 
How do the reported 40 Venezuelan people who were killed during the raid feel about it? Are they thrilled? (Cuba has also reported they had 32 people killed during it.)

As for your idiotic hypothetical... it is both idiotic and hypothetical and deserves no more discussion that that.
LOL
 
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The Venezuelan people seem pretty thrilled.

Whether this ends up being better or worse for the world who really knows

But for the people who hate Trump, anything he does is bad. He could cure cancer and i am pretty sure the NYT, CNN, the Atlantic, etc would he putting out pieces on why curing cancer is actually a terrible thing haha.

If Harris had won and she did this, you can't tell me they wouldn't be framing this in a positive light especially after they spent 4 years lying to us about Biden's cognitive health until it was so obvious he was in deep decline in the debate, that they knew they couldn't keep going on like that

Most of the Venezuelans you see celebrating are in exile. Now I'm sure you're across the nuance of Latin American politics in particular the condition of indigenous people and the poor in Venezuela before the Chavez and Maduro governments. I'm not defending Maduro but initially the current regime was very popular and in some quarters very unpopular, especially in the US. Oh the upper class in Venezuela weren't to happy of having their privilege stripped from them either a lot went into exile...

The precedent this sets is obscenely dangerous, this is an illegal act of aggression, if its good for America, it will be good for China, for Russia and so on. The relative peace we have enjoyed since 1945 is being destroyed, by a bunch of greedy fascist *****. And I guarantee you, when the dying starts, it wont be them or their children that get sent off to serve.
 
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The Venezuelan people seem pretty thrilled.

Whether this ends up being better or worse for the world who really knows

But for the people who hate Trump, anything he does is bad. He could cure cancer and i am pretty sure the NYT, CNN, the Atlantic, etc would he putting out pieces on why curing cancer is actually a terrible thing haha.

If Harris had won and she did this, you can't tell me they wouldn't be framing this in a positive light especially after they spent 4 years lying to us about Biden's cognitive health until it was so obvious he was in deep decline in the debate, that they knew they couldn't keep going on like that

He was a terrible person so I am sure many people should be happy about this. There were large celebrations in the street when Saddam Huesin was overthrown as well. But the USA isnt the world police and the POTUS cant simply decide to overthrow anyone he wants. Do you think we should do this to every dictator? Every bad leader that the people dont like? Should another country be able to do this in the USA? Trump is not popular . The Majority dont support him and he is breaking the law frequently and crossing lines of what the USA President is allowed to do. I guess China should be able to take him out and wait and see if its good or not for the USA.

Its a very false narrative that so many conservatives have fallen into right now. No one thinks Maduro is a good guy or a good leader. The problem has nothing to do with that. Taking out a countries leader in their own country and not during war without the approval of the congress is a problem.

I dont care about Biden or Harris. They arent in charge. But sure play a silly hypothetical Harris would not have done this. If for some crazy reason she acted like Trump she would not be supported by a large amount of her own base. Thats a big difference between what you and others like to call both sides. The more liberal part of the USA has no problem calling out their own side and being upset when they do something wrong. Trumpers on the other hand will justify anything even when its the opposite of what they previously stated. Do you think if Harris did what Trump just did that the right wingers would be cheering for her actions?
 
Maduro was horrible. He was a bad person. Nothing bad that could happen to him will be bad enough for what he deserves.
As bad as Sadam? Does it justify an attack on their home soil? I'm asking legitimately. I'm not well-versed in everything going on in Venezuela.
 
I doubt they decided any such thing in the Alaska talks, but this does appear to be Trump’s “vision” of the “real politic” of the current world order. The world order according to Trump, in what he’s calling the Don-Roe Doctrine. Might makes Right seems to be the new world order. This “new” order ignores the old way, supporting democracy and human freedom, supporting NATO, etc. The supreme powers that be will determine what human rights are, or are not, in their respective spheres of influence. To hell with what we have always told ourselves we stood for. It’s a Strongman’s world.


View: https://x.com/KeefE30s/status/2007596645714944184
 
The Venezuelan people seem pretty thrilled.

Whether this ends up being better or worse for the world who really knows

But for the people who hate Trump, anything he does is bad. He could cure cancer and i am pretty sure the NYT, CNN, the Atlantic, etc would he putting out pieces on why curing cancer is actually a terrible thing haha.

If Harris had won and she did this, you can't tell me they wouldn't be framing this in a positive light especially after they spent 4 years lying to us about Biden's cognitive health until it was so obvious he was in deep decline in the debate, that they knew they couldn't keep going on like that
If Harris had won and done this then maga, trump, and Fox news would be calling for her execution.

If Biden/Obama cured cancer then maga, trump, Fox News would be talking about how curing cancer is a horrible thing.

It goes both ways.

This is where we are a country. More divided than ever before, thanks in large part to trump.
 
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https://www.npr.org/2026/01/05/nx-s1-5666331/trump-politics-venezuela-republicans-democrats
Donald Trump, the "America First" candidate and president, has turned out to be rather hawkish. In less than 12 months in office this second time around, he's conducted strikes in seven countries — Iran, Nigeria, Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Somalia and, this weekend, oversaw a daring middle-of-the-night raid in Venezuela.

Trump has a long history of saying the United States should "take the oil."

"You're not stealing anything," Trump said of taking oil from Iraq in a 2011 interview with ABC. "We're reimbursing ourselves."

Fast forward to 2023, when Trump was out of office, talking about Venezuela.

"We're buying oil from Venezuela," Trump said during an event in North Carolina. "When I left, Venezuela was ready to collapse. We would have taken it over. We would have gotten all that oil. It would have been right next door. But now we're buying oil from Venezuela"

The White House has repeatedly claimed to be stemming the flow of fentanyl by striking alleged drug boats off the coast of Venezuela, despite the fact that fentanyl isn't largely produced in Venezuela.

Rubio, meanwhile, said that this was a law enforcement action to recover fugitives, because of a 2020 indictment of Maduro for the trafficking of cocaine. That, by the way, seems to be part of the administration's rationale for not seeking authorization from Congress.

These explanations are likely more politically palatable to the MAGA base, than saying the United States is at war with Venezuela or, as Trump said, that the United States is now running another country — with no clear goals for an exit.

Right-wing authoritarians are OK, but left-wing dictators are not?

Trump referred to Maduro as a "dictator" four times during his news conference Saturday (an "outlaw dictator," "illegitimate dictator," "now-deposed dictator" and "dictator and terrorist.")

But there are lots of other dictators, authoritarians and strongmen in the rest of the world, many of whom Trump has praised through the years.

Trump has allied himself with people like Hungary's Viktor Orbán, Argentina's Javier Milei, rolled out the red carpet for Saudi Arabia's Mohammed bin Salman, seems deferential to Russia's Vladimir Putin, and, during his first term, made overtures to North Korea's Kim Jong Un.

Couldn't there be justifications for those leaders' overthrow, too, that an American administration could come up with, following Trump's logic?

It's not a far leap to suggest the difference is politics (and oil).

They might point out the apparent hypocrisy of ousting Maduro because of drugs while pardoning the former head of Honduras, who was convicted of drug trafficking.

This is the president's most vulnerable point politically in this second term. He is facing his worst approval ratings, is going to be 80 in June and is inching closer to politically irrelevant lame-duck status.

So it might not be surprising that Trump would try to stay in the headlines, like with this Venezuela action, and shift attention away from other, more negative issues for him politically.
 
If Harris had won and done this then maga, trump, and Fox news would be calling for her execution.

If Biden/Obama cured cancer then maga, trump, Fox News would be talking about how curing cancer is a horrible thing.

It goes both ways.

This is where we are a country. More divided than ever before, thanks in large part to trump.
LOL If Harris/Biden could say a coherent sentence MAGA would celebrate it. When Tulsi/RFK jr/ Fetterman/Elon/etc say anything positive or coherent about trump they were immediately ostracized by the left and accepted by the right. TDS brain melt is real.
 
If Harris had won and done this then maga, trump, and Fox news would be calling for her execution.

If Biden/Obama cured cancer then maga, trump, Fox News would be talking about how curing cancer is a horrible thing.

It goes both ways.

This is where we are a country. More divided than ever before, thanks in large part to trump.
I don't disagree with you on the first part. It's a tall task to get a lot of people to see even that part

But Trump is a reaction to Obama's second term. And Trump #2 is in part a reaction to wokeness. The left first started pulling the goal posts to the fringes. Most liberals can't even identify what the difference between neoliberalism and classical liberalism is ( chasm there) And way too people can even identify what i mean by that but it's not suprising. The left controls practically all the organs in society
 
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I don't disagree with you on the first part. It's a tall task to get a lot of people to see even that part

But Trump is a reaction to Obama's second term. And Trump #2 is in part a reaction to wokeness. The left first started pulling the goal posts to the fringes. Most liberals can't even identify what the difference between wokeness and classical liberalism is (vast chasm there) And way too people can even identify what i mean by that but it's not suprising. The left controls practically all the organs in society
Nah trump. Is a douchebag narcissist corrupt immoral dishonest scandalous ******* like the country has never seen before.
 
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