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I also remember people saying "We're invading Iraq so we can take their oil" but that's just not how it works. Oil is a commodity and these countries are not hoarding their supply.

No but they control the price at terms favourable to them not the consumer.
 
Its kinda like the iraq war. We were lied to about WMD's so we could force a regime change and get us some oil.

Now we are being lied to about the drug trade so we can force a regime change and drill baby drill. Venezuela has the largest oil reserves in the world from what I hear.

You're right Venezuela has the worlds largest known oil reserves. The Chavez/Maduro government was hugely popular for their first decade in power and were routinely democratically elected. I doubt elections these days are strictly democratic in Venezuela anymore tho. However what we must remember is almost from the first the CIA attempted to destabilise the Chavez government and backed several coups against them. Once it became clear that the government controlled the military the CIA has waged a financial war against Venezuela, firstly to destroy their currency and then to ruin their markets, this has been going on for close to 15 years.
 
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I noticed at Hegseth’s presser yesterday that he claimed, in so many words, the “narco-terrorists” we are killing are bringing drugs to the US “by boat”. Pretty misleading, as no outboard motor is going to take you 1000 miles to Florida without refueling many times. None of these boats are traveling to the shores of Florida. In the instance of the strike on 9/2/25, where the survivors were killed, the drugs were not even destined for the United States at all….



The drugs on the boat were most likely destined for Europe, not the United States:


The alleged drug traffickers killed by the US military in a strike on September 2 were heading to link up with another, larger vessel that was bound for Suriname — a small South American country east of Venezuela – the admiral who oversaw the operation told lawmakers on Thursday, according to two sources with direct knowledge of his remarks.

According to intelligence collected by US forces, the struck boat planned to “rendezvous” with the second vessel and transfer drugs to it, Adm. Frank Bradley said during the briefings, but the military was unable to locate the second vessel. Bradley argued there was still a possibility the drug shipment could have ultimately made its way from Suriname to the US, the sources said, telling lawmakers that justified striking the smaller boat even if it wasn’t directly heading to US shores at the time it was hit.

US drug enforcement officials say that trafficking routes via Suriname are primarily destined for European markets. US-bound drug trafficking routes have been concentrated on the Pacific Ocean in recent years.

The new detail adds yet another wrinkle to the Trump administration’s argument that striking the boat multiple times, and killing survivors, was necessary in order to protect the US from an imminent threat.
 
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OK, here we go. Trump said a day or two ago, there would be no problem releasing the video of the second strike on the survivors, that it would be released.

Yeah, right! Not that I’m anxious to see people blown up, but sounds like it will not be released, if Pete Hegseth has anything to do with it.

So, what’s to review?! And no, Hegseth, they were not headed to the US by boat.


Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on Saturday refused to say whether the Pentagon would release video of the early September operationthat targeted survivors of a strike on an alleged drug-smuggling boat in the Caribbean.

"We're reviewing the process, and we'll see," Hegseth said in a Q&A session after addressing a defense forum hosted by the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California. "Whatever we were to decide to release, we'd have to be very responsible about reviewing that right now."

Eleven people were killed in the Sept. 2 missile attack on an alleged drug boat, the first of several such assaults off Latin America's coastal waters. The Trump administration has faced heavy criticism after the Washington Post reported last week that a second missile was launched on the boat, killing two survivors of the initial strike….

……Mr. Trump on Wednesday said he would support the release of all footage of the Sept. 2 strikes.

"I don't know what they have, but whatever they have we'll certainly release, no problem," Mr. Trump told reporters Wednesday.

However, the Pentagon chief on Saturday was noncommittal as he was asked multiple times whether the video would be released.

"We are reviewing it right now," Hegseth said.

During his speech Saturday, Hegseth insisted the strikes against the alleged drug-trafficking boats and their "narco-terrorists" will continue.

"We've been clear, if you're working for a designated terrorist organization, and you bring drugs into this country in a boat, we will find you and we will sink you," Hegseth said. "...We are killing them. We will keep killing them so long as they are poisoning our people with narcotics so lethal they're tantamount to chemical weapons."
 
So they attacked a boat, there were a couple people who didn't die in the attack so they went back in to finish them off.

Orders to "leave no survivors" are ILLEGAL. It is a war crime by all definitions. Specifically, killing people whose boat/ship has been sunk is word for word prohibited.
The problem is there is no one to enforce it. The Hague can convict the US of the crime internationally, but no one can do anything about it other than us, internally. And with a stranglehold on the courts, nothing will happen. Until Congress and the Senate decide to impeach and change the presidency, nothing will change and the crimes will continue apace.
 
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