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Maduro was horrible. He was a bad person. Nothing bad that could happen to him will be bad enough for what he deserves.
As bad as Sadam? Does it justify an attack on their home soil? I'm asking legitimately. I'm not well-versed in everything going on in Venezuela.
 
I doubt they decided any such thing in the Alaska talks, but this does appear to be Trump’s “vision” of the “real politic” of the current world order. The world order according to Trump, in what he’s calling the Don-Roe Doctrine. Might makes Right seems to be the new world order. This “new” order ignores the old way, supporting democracy and human freedom, supporting NATO, etc. The supreme powers that be will determine what human rights are, or are not, in their respective spheres of influence. To hell with what we have always told ourselves we stood for. It’s a Strongman’s world.


View: https://x.com/KeefE30s/status/2007596645714944184
 
The Venezuelan people seem pretty thrilled.

Whether this ends up being better or worse for the world who really knows

But for the people who hate Trump, anything he does is bad. He could cure cancer and i am pretty sure the NYT, CNN, the Atlantic, etc would he putting out pieces on why curing cancer is actually a terrible thing haha.

If Harris had won and she did this, you can't tell me they wouldn't be framing this in a positive light especially after they spent 4 years lying to us about Biden's cognitive health until it was so obvious he was in deep decline in the debate, that they knew they couldn't keep going on like that
If Harris had won and done this then maga, trump, and Fox news would be calling for her execution.

If Biden/Obama cured cancer then maga, trump, Fox News would be talking about how curing cancer is a horrible thing.

It goes both ways.

This is where we are a country. More divided than ever before, thanks in large part to trump.
 
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https://www.npr.org/2026/01/05/nx-s1-5666331/trump-politics-venezuela-republicans-democrats
Donald Trump, the "America First" candidate and president, has turned out to be rather hawkish. In less than 12 months in office this second time around, he's conducted strikes in seven countries — Iran, Nigeria, Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Somalia and, this weekend, oversaw a daring middle-of-the-night raid in Venezuela.

Trump has a long history of saying the United States should "take the oil."

"You're not stealing anything," Trump said of taking oil from Iraq in a 2011 interview with ABC. "We're reimbursing ourselves."

Fast forward to 2023, when Trump was out of office, talking about Venezuela.

"We're buying oil from Venezuela," Trump said during an event in North Carolina. "When I left, Venezuela was ready to collapse. We would have taken it over. We would have gotten all that oil. It would have been right next door. But now we're buying oil from Venezuela"

The White House has repeatedly claimed to be stemming the flow of fentanyl by striking alleged drug boats off the coast of Venezuela, despite the fact that fentanyl isn't largely produced in Venezuela.

Rubio, meanwhile, said that this was a law enforcement action to recover fugitives, because of a 2020 indictment of Maduro for the trafficking of cocaine. That, by the way, seems to be part of the administration's rationale for not seeking authorization from Congress.

These explanations are likely more politically palatable to the MAGA base, than saying the United States is at war with Venezuela or, as Trump said, that the United States is now running another country — with no clear goals for an exit.

Right-wing authoritarians are OK, but left-wing dictators are not?

Trump referred to Maduro as a "dictator" four times during his news conference Saturday (an "outlaw dictator," "illegitimate dictator," "now-deposed dictator" and "dictator and terrorist.")

But there are lots of other dictators, authoritarians and strongmen in the rest of the world, many of whom Trump has praised through the years.

Trump has allied himself with people like Hungary's Viktor Orbán, Argentina's Javier Milei, rolled out the red carpet for Saudi Arabia's Mohammed bin Salman, seems deferential to Russia's Vladimir Putin, and, during his first term, made overtures to North Korea's Kim Jong Un.

Couldn't there be justifications for those leaders' overthrow, too, that an American administration could come up with, following Trump's logic?

It's not a far leap to suggest the difference is politics (and oil).

They might point out the apparent hypocrisy of ousting Maduro because of drugs while pardoning the former head of Honduras, who was convicted of drug trafficking.

This is the president's most vulnerable point politically in this second term. He is facing his worst approval ratings, is going to be 80 in June and is inching closer to politically irrelevant lame-duck status.

So it might not be surprising that Trump would try to stay in the headlines, like with this Venezuela action, and shift attention away from other, more negative issues for him politically.
 
If Harris had won and done this then maga, trump, and Fox news would be calling for her execution.

If Biden/Obama cured cancer then maga, trump, Fox News would be talking about how curing cancer is a horrible thing.

It goes both ways.

This is where we are a country. More divided than ever before, thanks in large part to trump.
LOL If Harris/Biden could say a coherent sentence MAGA would celebrate it. When Tulsi/RFK jr/ Fetterman/Elon/etc say anything positive or coherent about trump they were immediately ostracized by the left and accepted by the right. TDS brain melt is real.
 
If Harris had won and done this then maga, trump, and Fox news would be calling for her execution.

If Biden/Obama cured cancer then maga, trump, Fox News would be talking about how curing cancer is a horrible thing.

It goes both ways.

This is where we are a country. More divided than ever before, thanks in large part to trump.
I don't disagree with you on the first part. It's a tall task to get a lot of people to see even that part

But Trump is a reaction to Obama's second term. And Trump #2 is in part a reaction to wokeness. The left first started pulling the goal posts to the fringes. Most liberals can't even identify what the difference between neoliberalism and classical liberalism is ( chasm there) And way too people can even identify what i mean by that but it's not suprising. The left controls practically all the organs in society
 
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I don't disagree with you on the first part. It's a tall task to get a lot of people to see even that part

But Trump is a reaction to Obama's second term. And Trump #2 is in part a reaction to wokeness. The left first started pulling the goal posts to the fringes. Most liberals can't even identify what the difference between wokeness and classical liberalism is (vast chasm there) And way too people can even identify what i mean by that but it's not suprising. The left controls practically all the organs in society
Nah trump. Is a douchebag narcissist corrupt immoral dishonest scandalous ******* like the country has never seen before.
 
If Harris had won and done this then maga, trump, and Fox news would be calling for her execution.

If Biden/Obama cured cancer then maga, trump, Fox News would be talking about how curing cancer is a horrible thing.

It goes both ways.

This is where we are a country. More divided than ever before, thanks in large part to trump.
Bull crap. The right can actually see good policies when they happen. We had no Kamala derangement syndrome, she was too stupid to hate. TDS however is a very real thing. Psychiatrists are now helping people diagnosed with it. Even when Trump does something spectacular for the country, lefties cannot see it as good.
 
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