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Warriors and Jazz Mega Trade

Core4 said:
Ummm...I think Numby was talking about when Rush played for the Pacers.
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Hence the snicker at the bottom of pkm post
 
Getting Rush and the 2nd round pick really sent the trade into the major win column for the Jazz.

Brandon Rush was a perfect asset to acquire, because whatever they do with him is a good decision. If he comes back healthy from the ACL and plays well, they can trade him at the deadline for another draft asset and a bigger expiring contract from a contender looking for a gritty wing player before their playoff run. Or, they can let him finish the season and resign him for a fair contract and have him as a bench leader behind the core 5. Or if they just let his contract run out, then it's $4 million more to add to the cap for next year. There's no wrong answer with him. He can be an asset, a long-term option or an expiring.

My guess is that they'll flip him for a pick and another contract at the deadline, giving them 3 in 2014 or 2 in 2015. I'm hoping he comes back healthy and plays well enough off the bench that he merits serious trade assets. I like the game-plan so far, and I love what Lindsey can do with multiple picks.
 
Ellis269 said:
Getting Rush and the 2nd round pick really sent the trade into the major win column for the Jazz.

Brandon Rush was a perfect asset to acquire, because whatever they do with him is a good decision. If he comes back healthy from the ACL and plays well, they can trade him at the deadline for another draft asset and a bigger expiring contract from a contender looking for a gritty wing player before their playoff run. Or, they can let him finish the season and resign him for a fair contract and have him as a bench leader behind the core 5. Or if they just let his contract run out, then it's $4 million more to add to the cap for next year. There's no wrong answer with him. He can be an asset, a long-term option or an expiring.

My guess is that they'll flip him for a pick and another contract at the deadline, giving them 3 in 2014 or 2 in 2015. I'm hoping he comes back healthy and plays well enough off the bench that he merits serious trade assets. I like the game-plan so far, and I love what Lindsey can do with multiple picks.
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Someone's done a complete 180!!!
 
Zulu said:
Someone's done a complete 180!!!
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It's a good point - but to be fair - at the time of my initial disappointment, I did think that Golden State was trying to make room for Dwight Howard. If that was the case, then the Jazz should have held out for Barnes. Since they weren't clearing cap for Dwight (because he was going to sign with Houston) and Iggy was their alternative, it's very clear that neither Barnes, nor Bogut were on the table. The Jazz clearly got the best deal that was available (and then some.)

Two 1st round picks for taking on Biedrins and Jefferson sounds about right, but to then also work Brandon Rush and multiple 2nd round picks into the deal was masterful. Had the Lakers traded Dwight to Golden State for Barnes, Bogut and assets, I would have been less enthusiastic. After seeing how everything ended up playing out, there's no doubt that the Jazz won this trade. And possibly crushed it since both 1st round picks are unprotected.
 
Ellis269 said:
It's a good point - but to be fair - at the time of my initial disappointment, I did think that Golden State was trying to make room for Dwight Howard. If that was the case, then the Jazz should have held out for Barnes. Since they weren't clearing cap for Dwight (because he was going to sign with Houston) and Iggy was their alternative, it's very clear that neither Barnes, nor Bogut were on the table. The Jazz clearly got the best deal that was available (and then some.)

Two 1st round picks for taking on Biedrins and Jefferson sounds about right, but to then also work Brandon Rush and multiple 2nd round picks into the deal was masterful. Had the Lakers traded Dwight to Golden State for Barnes, Bogut and assets, I would have been less enthusiastic. After seeing how everything ended up playing out, there's no doubt that the Jazz won this trade. And possibly crushed it since both 1st round picks are unprotected.
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Good point. I too, am thrilled with the inclusion of Rush. By the deadline, I'll bet we can flip him to a contender for their late first. If they're over the cap, we'll just get back one of their end of bench guys that would be an expiring.
 
Personally I hope Rush comes in and and does well enough that it makes the Jazz want to keep him to be part of the future of this young and growing team.
 
Ellis269 said:
It's a good point - but to be fair - at the time of my initial disappointment, I did think that Golden State was trying to make room for Dwight Howard. If that was the case, then the Jazz should have held out for Barnes. Since they weren't clearing cap for Dwight (because he was going to sign with Houston) and Iggy was their alternative, it's very clear that neither Barnes, nor Bogut were on the table. The Jazz clearly got the best deal that was available (and then some.)

Two 1st round picks for taking on Biedrins and Jefferson sounds about right, but to then also work Brandon Rush and multiple 2nd round picks into the deal was masterful. Had the Lakers traded Dwight to Golden State for Barnes, Bogut and assets, I would have been less enthusiastic. After seeing how everything ended up playing out, there's no doubt that the Jazz won this trade. And possibly crushed it since both 1st round picks are unprotected.
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I'll cut you some slack...

I honestly thought when we were first rumored to be getting Bogut that is when GS was still in the running for Dwight as soon as the rumors changed to Beidrens and RJefferson I knew they were now going in a different direction!!

The lakers IMO wouldn't have signed and traded for Bogut and Barnes... It would still keep them like 70 million in luxury tax
 
Zulu said:
I'll cut you some slack...

I honestly thought when we were first rumored to be getting Bogut that is when GS was still in the running for Dwight as soon as the rumors changed to Beidrens and RJefferson I knew they were now going in a different direction!!

The lakers IMO wouldn't have signed and traded for Bogut and Barnes... It would still keep them like 70 million in luxury tax
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Agree. It was Dwight or nothing for LA. Now they can be conservative with Kobe's return and likely be a lottery team next season. They'll hope to win one of the top-3 spots, sign LeBron and return to the top of the NBA.
 
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