We Got Swindled by Sexton (And Eddie Zero Sucks)

[Eddie Zero]

Yeah because the combo of Sexton, Cedi Osman, Tristan Thompson, and Larry Nance was supposed to take the NBA by storm.

Efficient volume scorers who don't make teammates better are great bench sparkplug types. We pulled JC out of Sexton's exact situation and he helped us in that role. It really ain't this hard.

In the season before injury , he really wasn't not ever ball hogging either. ( not like his first seasons ) He was in fact the first option , if Love wasn't out there, most often. What I see on those teams most of the time, is he could have averaged 30 by then if he was stat adding,and if they were not tanking running the O through a less than 100% version of Garland for a couple seasons where he was not very effective besides getting the centers action.

 

[Eddie Zero]

Tough crowd.

I know the Nets were bad defensive wise , but this is the young Bull highly motivated we need here.

 

[Elizah Huge]

View: https://twitter.com/TheRally/status/1565444506807422976

Dude you constantly run into this problem… that’s not all the offer was lmao. That was the meat and potatoes of it. Stop thinking every report you read is gospel and do a little deeper digging.

 

[Elizah Huge]

View: https://twitter.com/TheRally/status/1565444506807422976

Directly from Woj’s article:

When guard Immanuel Quickley was proposed as a replacement for Grimes in the trade, Utah wanted three unprotected first-round draft picks as part of the package -- but New York would only do a third first-round pick that included top-five protections, sources said. Those packages would've included Milwaukee's 2025 first-round pick, two second-round picks, two pick swaps and two expiring contracts from a third team, sources said. New York would've moved out Evan Fournier and a first-round pick to a third team to spare Utah taking on Fournier's remaining $37 million, sources said.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Directly from Woj’s article:

Cavs deal really isn’t even close to that rich since the Knicks probably cough up two lottery picks out of those three and the Jazz will be lucky to get one from the Cavs. Add onto that that the Jazz got good players at a time when they need them the least they have in franchise history and it’s a no brainer. IMO.

 

[FrenchJazzFa]

No opinion at that stage. Way too early. Just arrived, don't have much chemistry with the others. At mid-season, we may know.

 

[framer]

Directly from Woj’s article:

You do realize that Shams and Woj reported this differently. I tend not to believe Woj, because he reported some questionable stuff during the negotiation while Shams took crap for stating that The Jazz has offers from other teams that they liked, which was obviously true. Woj was the one with the "Well the Knicks offered all the stuff Danny wanted wayyyy back at the start" after the trade was done, which was obvious bullcrap. I'm not saying Woj lied, he just reported exactly what he was told uncritically. Shams stuck by his story even when nobody believed him about the "other teams with offers." The Jazz had no reason to lie about the deal from the Knicks side. The Knicks certainly did.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

You do realize that Shams and Woj reported this differently. I tend not to believe Woj, because he reported some questionable stuff during the negotiation while Shams took crap for stating that The Jazz has offers from other teams that they liked, which was obviously true. Woj was the one with the "Well the Knicks offered all the stuff Danny wanted wayyyy back at the start" after the trade was done, which was obvious bullcrap. I'm not saying Woj lied, he just reported exactly what he was told uncritically. Shams stuck by his story even when nobody believed him about the "other teams with offers." The Jazz had no reason to lie about the deal from the Knicks side. The Knicks certainly did.

Why was the Knicks thing offering a better early package BS?

That was the whole thing, the Knicks were progressively making their offer less and less because they thought they had leverage and no one else would step up. I believe it. I think DA was being greedy early and the Knicks tried to punish him for it.

Woj/Shams are certainly mouthpieces for certain things, but I do think they report accurate information for the most part. They just frame it in ways that benefit the people they need it to benefit.

 

[framer]

Why was the Knicks thing offering a better early package BS?

That was the whole thing, the Knicks were progressively making their offer less and less because they thought they had leverage and no one else would step up. I believe it. I think DA was being greedy early and the Knicks tried to punish him for it.

Woj/Shams are certainly mouthpieces for certain things, but I do think they report accurate information for the most part. They just frame it in ways that benefit the people they need it to benefit.

I mean they report accurately what their sources are saying, they just have different sources with different agendas. Their sources disagreed. In these situations, I generally trust the side that has the least amount to lose if the truth comes out.

Pretty obvious what the Jazz wanted, more picks. Do you think they turn down a deal with 6 FRP picks + some seconds +Barrett + Quickly? I'm pretty sure Danny takes that deal all day. It was never offered.

Watch what teams do, not what they say.

 

[Elizah Huge]

I mean they report accurately what their sources are saying, they just have different sources with different agendas. Their sources disagreed. In these situations, I generally trust the side that has the least amount to lose if the truth comes out.

Pretty obvious what the Jazz wanted, more picks. Do you think they turn down a deal with 6 FRP picks + some seconds +Barrett + Quickly? I'm pretty sure Danny takes that deal all day. It was never offered.

Watch what teams do, not what they say.

The Jazz most definitely turned town RJ/Quickley + 2 unprotected 1sts + a top-5 protected 1st at minimum.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I mean they report accurately what their sources are saying, they just have different sources with different agendas. Their sources disagreed. In these situations, I generally trust the side that has the least amount to lose if the truth comes out.

Pretty obvious what the Jazz wanted, more picks. Do you think they turn down a deal with 6 FRP picks + some seconds +Barrett + Quickly? I'm pretty sure Danny takes that deal all day. It was never offered.

Watch what teams do, not what they say.

Uhh, when did the report say 6 FRP's? It said 3.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

View: https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1565505224986566657?s=10&t=EYqrEmZ5IphxI73jWttARw


Pls stop trying to gaslight us dude.

Knicks offered 3 first, RJ, Obi, and Robinson.

The Jazz turning that down and trying to squeeze more is certainly believable.

Then the Knicks lowered the deal believing they had leverage. This isnt some wild report that makes the Knicks look better. It's the likely truth.