What's new
By:

We signed Emmanuel Mudiay

stitches said:
Exum with half of his tendons, knee ligaments torn and shoulders broken is better than anything Mudiay has ever shown in the NBA.
Click to expand...
So you are saying he shot better, scored more and passed better than Mudiay? How about you look at numbers before spewing nonsense.
 
I think Mudiay and Exum compliment each other nicely, and can play together, assuming both show improvement otherwise there isn’t much reason to play rather much.
 
This is also a great signing because the jazz aren’t committed to him even being in the rotation. They can take a wait and see approach. He has a lot of god given talent and upside, if he wants to play, he’ll play tough defense, (he’s capable) and he’ll learn to play smart and within the offense. Last year he was asked to carry the load, he won’t in Utah. He just needs to concentrate on adding depth and scoring punch off the bench. If we had given him 2+ years at 5-7 million, I don’t think I like this deal that much.
 
MVP said:
So you are saying he shot better, scored more and passed better than Mudiay? How about you look at numbers before spewing nonsense.
Click to expand...
Is this what I said?

Mudiay's best season vs Dante's last 2 seasons:

QIWPHSk.jpg


dh6u91q.jpg


So yeah... Dante passed better and has been more efficient than Mudiay over the last 2 seasons. This doesn't even begin to account for their defense where Dante blows him out of the water... BY A HUGE MARGIN!!!

RPM:
Exum(17-18): -1.57
Exum(18-19): -2.13
Mudiay: -2.71

RAPM:
Exum(17-18): 0.05
Exum(18-19): 0.84
Mudiay: -1.62

PIPM:
Exum(17-18): -1.14
Exum(18-19): -2.2
Mudiay: -2.4



Notice.. I'm only taking Mudiay's best season(the last one), because if I went back the comparison becomes absolutely BRUTAL in favor of Exum.



I would appreciate you being a bit less condescending for someone who has done ZERO research on the things you talk with such confidence about.

I get it... hating on Exum is all in vogue nowadays for whatever reason... like he chooses on purpose to break his bones and tear his ligaments once he gets on court, but lets be at least a bit reasonable here.
 
Last edited:
stitches said:
Is this what I said?

Mudiay's best season vs Dante's last 2 seasons:

QIWPHSk.jpg


dh6u91q.jpg


So yeah... Dante passed better and has been more efficient than Mudiay over the last 2 seasons. This doesn't even begin to account for their defense where Dante blows him out of the water... BY A HUGE MARGIN!!!

RPM:
Exum(17-18): -1.57
Exum(18-19): -2.13
Mudiay: -2.71

RAPM:
Exum(17-18): 0.05
Exum(18-19): 0.84
Mudiay: -1.62

PIPM:
Exum(17-18): -1.14
Exum(18-19): -2.2
Mudiay: -2.4



Notice.. I'm only taking Mudiay's best season(the last one), because if I went back the comparison becomes absolutely BRUTAL in favor of Exum.



I would appreciate you being a bit less condescending for someone who has done ZERO research on the things you talk with such confidence about.

I get it... hating on Exum is all in vogue nowadays for whatever reason... like he chooses on purpose to break his bones and tear his ligaments once he gets on court, but lets be at least a bit reasonable here.
Click to expand...

Nice twisting on stats. First you picked one seasons, not last two season and the season where Exum played 14 games LMAO. Second, like Exum would ever play 36 min a game... this 36 per game stats for Exum are absolutely useless. Try harder. Exum sucks, injured or not he is 3d string pg at best.
 
I wonder how well a guy like Mudiay would have done had he been in our development program for 4 years... seems like a willing worker. I don't love our backup pgs both being experimental/development type guys... Neto did quite well being boring and average. I understand the gamble though and I'm cool with it.
 
Mudiay's defense has been really bad his whole career... I'm not sure he's ever a smart basketball player.
 
MVP said:
Nice twisting on stats. First you picked one seasons, not last two season and the season where Exum played 14 games LMAO. Second, like Exum would ever play 36 min a game... this 36 per game stats for Exum are absolutely useless. Try harder. Exum sucks, injured or not he is 3d string pg at best.
Click to expand...
How is that twisting stats? I gave all the stats I could get for his last 2 years. Per 36 and per 100 are standard stats to normalize for playing time and pace when comparing 2 players. Neither of them is 36 minutes a game player. That's the point. And Exum is still miles better by pretty much any advanced metric you can find. I never argued Exum is great. I just said even with all his injuries he's much better than Mudiay... which he is... MILES BETTER. And every stat shows it.
 
Lets look what Exum homers saying at career numbers, how bad that is.... Oh look, Mudiay, scored more, shot better from 3%, had more assists per game, stl, blk and played more games in 1 year less.
https://www.basketball-reference.co...anuel+Mudiay&player_id2=mudiaem01&idx=players


Lets look at those advanced stats, Exum has career PER of 8.1.... how stupid we all are not to see blistering potential and elite skills! AST, Reb,STL Blk per 100pos? AST%? TO%? Not even close...Only thing really worrisome for Mudiay is turnovers, and given that he is 1 year younger than Dedxum it can still be improved significantly.
 
Last edited:
infection said:
There are maybe 1-2 people here who hate Exum. The rest of us would rather move on, which people view the same as hating, I guess. It's not Exum himself. It's that with the current dynamics he represents an opportunity cost and we're continuing down this path because of a sunk cost fallacy.
Click to expand...

Would rep if we still had it for mentioning sunk cost fallacy. So many people just don't get that. So many!!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page
Back
Top