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"We're going to war, bro."

Exactly, Iran (Persia) is a different monster. The core of what was once labeled “the axis of evil”, with all the potential external participants that could join in. If I were living in Israel I’d be pissed about the US cabinet’s latest actions.
 
The Thriller said:
I've read online people comparing this to Iraq. While there's similar attempts to paint a war in Iran as a "patriotic endeavor" to protect us against the scurrry mooooslums, I don't see the comparisons.
  • The Bush administration enjoyed a 90+ percent approval rating post 9/11. Trump's has never risen about 50 percent. Bush was never impeached. The national debt is a much greater concern today. Goodluck taking the nation to war after being impeached, eyeing a national debt of $20+ trillion, and enjoying 40 percent approval ratings.
  • The nation was paranoid and scurrrred post 9/11. In 2020, the nation isn't nearly as paranoid about radical Islam. There's zero sense of urgency from the masses that Iran needs regime change. Check back with me if/when they use a nuclear weapon.
  • The Bush administration was disciplined in its messaging. WMDs! Yellowcake! Smoking Gun being a mushroom cloud! So disciplined that even a handful of our allies fell for it. The Trump administration can't even tie its own shoes. The Soleimani killing was justified because he was planning something or the contractor was killed or the embassy was protested at or something. No one knows why and this administration lacks the credibility to give a credible justification. Trump alone can't keep his message straight. Has he tried to stir support for an Iranian invasion on CNN yet? Or Rosie O'Donnell? We all know the real reason too. He felt embarrassed by the embassy protests, wanted to distract from impeachment, and so he chose the most radical option on a list presented to him. The most radical option was put on the list to make the realistic options appear even more realistic.
  • Lastly, the nation had enjoyed relatively bloodless and quick interventions in the Balkans prior to invasions in Afghanistan and Iraq. Yet, those two failed rebuilds are fresh in our minds today. So while a portion of Trump's base is clamoring for over another SHOCK N AWE invasion, most everyone else isn't.
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Eminently sensible.

But how does any of this really apply to Trump? Who will be the Generals or Congressmen to disobey Trump's orders? At what level of casualties would that happen? Say Iran orchestrated 3000 deaths like 9/11. Does that equate to wiping out a city of 20,000 in Iran? What would the response be? Would Trump have to confer with Congress about how much death to rain down on Iran? He has already announced his tweet is rule.

I think Iran know they are dealing with a madman in Trump and they will think hard about calling his bluff. It is only a few individuals who were assassinated after all. Or they could just say **** it, we'll suffer the consequences whatever they may be, and bomb a sporting event or large gathering.
 
str8line said:
Eminently sensible.

But how does any of this really apply to Trump? Who will be the Generals or Congressmen to disobey Trump's orders? At what level of casualties would that happen? Say Iran orchestrated 3000 deaths like 9/11. Does that equate to wiping out a city of 20,000 in Iran? What would the response be? Would Trump have to confer with Congress about how much death to rain down on Iran? He has already announced his tweet is rule.

I think Iran know they are dealing with a madman in Trump and they will think hard about calling his bluff. It is only a few individuals who were assassinated after all. Or they could just say **** it, we'll suffer the consequences whatever they may be, and bomb a sporting event or large gathering.
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So the novel that I started writing about 12 years ago (had about 85 pages and let a handful or two here read it) was about terrorism in the U.S. The first attack is a car bomb as someone leaves for work in the morning and starts their vehicle. The next is another car bomb but in a crowded area for more victims. And they continue to escalate from there. Just seems like if idiot terrorists wanted to truly **** as a country it would be doing something like this. Disturbing our comfortable way of life and freedoms. Our peace. Putting fear in our hearts. Sort of like how the DC region probably felt during the sniper attacks.

If I was them, that’s how I would hit us. Not sure they’d ever be able to pull that off though as I’m sure virtually every Iranian here is a great human being (better than Trumpf) and it would have to be awfully tough for anyone with any such ideas in their minds from outside the country to get in right now.

But sadly, at some point, in 50-200 years, I think that’s where this country is headed.
 
Ugh just read what’s happening. Awful. With ******* at the helm, almost nothing good can come from this.
 
Iran has taken credit for firing rockets at two bases in Iraq that house U.S. troops...

we're going to war, bro!

sigh
 
A nasty war in Iran is exactly what the poor working class folk in a dying town full of empty factories wanted, Amiright? Stick it to the liberal elites by bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran!
 
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