What Utah going to the Pac does to rivalries

[RobDMB]

You Utah fans are so cute. As usual, I'll just sit back and watch. Keep talking your smack, keep acting like you're better, and keep being yourselves. I really do enjoy the off-season -- it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

You have a huge amount of confidence in a team that disappoints more than not. I will admit that BYU has great football teams most of the time; but how many times have they lived up to or exceeded expectations? You're pimping a team that SHOULD have gone to a BCS bowl game by now but just can't get there. It's not like you root for a perennial powerhouse, it's just BYU.

You also keep claiming that Utah fans are displaying blind favoritism towards some inferior team... you are doing exactly the same thing. Utah's football program has proven it's worth, BYU's simply has not. Just because BYU beat the U head to head last year and a few times this decade in a heated rivalry doesn't mean they are a better team. Rivalry games are ALWAYS hotly contested no matter the record of the teams coming in.

Utah has played their way into a big conference which has a LOT of percs. BYU will continue to do well in the MWC and Utah will keep trying to make a name for itself in the PAC-12, that's all this really means.

 

[TroutBum]

You have a huge amount of confidence in a team that disappoints more than not. I will admit that BYU has great football teams most of the time; but how many times have they lived up to or exceeded expectations? You're pimping a team that SHOULD have gone to a BCS bowl game by now but just can't get there. It's not like you root for a perennial powerhouse, it's just BYU.

You also keep claiming that Utah fans are displaying blind favoritism towards some inferior team... you are doing exactly the same thing. Utah's football program has proven it's worth, BYU's simply has not. Just because BYU beat the U head to head last year and a few times this decade in a heated rivalry doesn't mean they are a better team. Rivalry games are ALWAYS hotly contested no matter the record of the teams coming in.

Utah has played their way into a big conference which has a LOT of percs. BYU will continue to do well in the MWC and Utah will keep trying to make a name for itself in the PAC-12, that's all this really means.

Except... you'll never find a post from me talking about how supperior BYU is. I understand that BYU isn't some super power house. I understand that we haven't done much of anything since '84. What I AM pointing out is that NEITHER HAS UTAH. Hooray for BCS games! We took third! YAY! You haven't proven jack squat, but if you ask any of the Homersexuals on this board, Utah is the King of the Universe and nobody can beat them. (except BYU)

 

[SaltyDawg]

You haven't said anything to oppose my statement that Utah won't win the MWC this year. I'll take that to mean you agree with it. And yet you continue to say that Utah would win the PAC this year. Does that make the MWC better than the PAC this year?
You keep mentioning the QB that isn't on Oregon's team anymore. Have you forgotten how many of Utah's players that aren't on the team anymore? You just automatically assume Utah will be better than Oregon now because they kicked their QB off the team. What about all the defensive players Utah lost? Not to mention the All-American offensive lineman. You don't just replace those guys and expect the new team to be better than they were the year before.
I'll say it again for you: DELUSIONAL

I don't know how I could be more clear... TCU and Utah are the 2 favorites to win the MWC this year. TCU and Utah would also be the 2 favorites to win the PAC this year. There is no TCU in the PAC, so if Utah was already in the PAC, they would be the favorite this year. It's not delusional. You know what's delusional? Some bitter BYU fan who keeps saying Utah wouldn't and won't contend for a PAC championship, but refuses to list the teams that will- even after being asked to do so repeatedly.

How funny. You sit here and flap the hole under your nose about how the MWC is now an inferior conference, how all of a sudden Utah is some big-time power house, and that you're automatically going to some bigger bowl game. Here's the kicker, you keep talking about what WILL happen -- which means, clearly, that you have no idea what will happen, and that your opinion > science. Let me hit you with some knowledge: Utah lost to BYU last year. I don't care if it was at home, if it was close, if it was a blow out, if it was played naked -- it doesn't matter, you lost. How can you honestly say that you're going to win the PAC and get into some Uber-Bowl when you've proven that you can't even compete at the MWC level?

"LOL TROUT, YOUR SUCH A HOMER! WE HAD A ROOKIE QB AND BARELY LOST, LOL!!11" It doesn't matter. You guys didn't win. You will continue to not win. You will continue to have excuses, just like always -- except now you can't blame the conference for your woes. I can't wait.

BYU barely won a freaking home game. What happened in the previous meeting? Oh yeah, Utah blew them out. Saying Utah can't compete with BYU is a ridiculous lie and you know it. Utah can, and will, blow them out again this year.
And Utah WILL be going to a bigger bowl game. In case you missed it, the Vegas bowl goes to the 5th place PAC team. I think even the most delusional of BYU homers will agree that Utah will do better than 5th place most years.

Except... you'll never find a post from me talking about how supperior BYU is. I understand that BYU isn't some super power house. I understand that we haven't done much of anything since '84. What I AM pointing out is that NEITHER HAS UTAH. Hooray for BCS games! We took third! YAY! You haven't proven jack squat, but if you ask any of the Homersexuals on this board, Utah is the King of the Universe and nobody can beat them. (except BYU)

Utah took second, get it right. And that accomplishment is more than BYU has ever done. yeah, BYU won a controversial championship 100 years ago or whatever, but they didn't beat anybody to do it and played in a crappy bowl game. Utah beat a top 5 team in a BCS bowl game to go undefeated for the second time in 4 years. BYU has never done that.

Oh yeah, and Utah got accepted to be in the PAC 10. They must have proven something for the PAC 10 to accept them. That's another accomplishment that is bigger than anything BYU has ever done.

 

[UGLI baby]

Before The Utes joined The Pac-10 I would have said that nothing would diminish the rivalry.

Now that were in The Pac-10 its obvious that the rivalry will not mean nearly as much to The Utes as it does to the cougs.

The rivalry game will become byu's superbowl every year. What game could possibly be bigger for them than the one against their hated rival from one of the evil BCS conferences?

Utah on the other hand will be battling schools like USC and Oregon with trips to The Rose Bowl on the line. Games against byu will be important but it definetely will not make or break our season like it will for byu.

Its obvious that byu's hate for Utah has already increased with the move to The Pac-12. As time goes by I think byu will grow to resent Utah more and more, and Utah will begin to think of byu as the annoying wacky school down south, instead of a heated rival.

 

[Beantown]

Holy crap Trout is a litte girl. Stop your whining.

 

[TroutBum]

I don't know how I could be more clear... TCU and Utah are the 2 favorites to win the MWC this year. TCU and Utah would also be the 2 favorites to win the PAC this year. There is no TCU in the PAC, so if Utah was already in the PAC, they would be the favorite this year. It's not delusional. You know what's delusional? Some bitter BYU fan who keeps saying Utah wouldn't and won't contend for a PAC championship, but refuses to list the teams that will- even after being asked to do so repeatedly.

BYU barely won a freaking home game. What happened in the previous meeting? Oh yeah, Utah blew them out. Saying Utah can't compete with BYU is a ridiculous lie and you know it. Utah can, and will, blow them out again this year.
And Utah WILL be going to a bigger bowl game. In case you missed it, the Vegas bowl goes to the 5th place PAC team. I think even the most delusional of BYU homers will agree that Utah will do better than 5th place most years.

Utah took second, get it right. And that accomplishment is more than BYU has ever done. yeah, BYU won a controversial championship 100 years ago or whatever, but they didn't beat anybody to do it and played in a crappy bowl game. Utah beat a top 5 team in a BCS bowl game to go undefeated for the second time in 4 years. BYU has never done that.


Oh yeah, and Utah got accepted to be in the PAC 10. They must have proven something for the PAC 10 to accept them. That's another accomplishment that is bigger than anything BYU has ever done.

Utah took second? Oh, they lost the championship game? Wait, they weren't even playing in the championship game? Hmmm... At BEST they took third, and I've always given them that much, since I'm not a complete BeanClown. To say they took 2nd is not intellectually honest.

Also, would you like to lose MORE money on the BYU game this year? I do enjoy taking your money, it really tickles my special spots.

 

[SaltyDawg]

Utah took second? Oh, they lost the championship game? Wait, they weren't even playing in the championship game? Hmmm... At BEST they took third, and I've always given them that much, since I'm not a complete BeanClown. To say they took 2nd is not intellectually honest.

Also, would you like to lose MORE money on the BYU game this year? I do enjoy taking your money, it really tickles my special spots.

Well if you want to be intellectually honest as you say, then lets get it all out there... BYU won the championship in the AP Poll. In that very same poll, Utah took second (and had 16 first place votes) in 2008.
https://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings/_/poll/1/year/2008/week/1/seasontype/3

And i'll bet you as much as you're willing to bet Utah beats BYU this year (barring some injuries of course).

 

[TroutBum]

Well if you want to be intellectually honest as you say, then lets get it all out there... BYU won the championship in the AP Poll. In that very same poll, Utah took second (and had 16 first place votes) in 2008.
https://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings/_/poll/1/year/2008/week/1/seasontype/3

And i'll bet you as much as you're willing to bet Utah beats BYU this year (barring some injuries of course).

Hilarious. You haven't even lost yet, and you're already making an excuse. This is classic Salty, and I expect nothing less. What kind of odds are you going to give me, anyhow?

 

[SaltyDawg]

Hilarious. You haven't even lost yet, and you're already making an excuse. This is classic Salty, and I expect nothing less. What kind of odds are you going to give me, anyhow?

I didn't make any excuse, and I fully expect Utah to win.

Odds? So all that crap last year about you not ever wanting odds or a spread or anything was a bunch of BS? I mean, I knew it was at the time since you had asked for a spread previously, but just to clear it up for everyone that thought you were legit about it... You want odds or points or something after all that crap you talked last year?

 

[TroutBum]

If you fully expect Utah to win, then don't add an asterisk to your post like, "Barring Injury" because it makes you look like a flaming roast beef curtain. Also, if you're so positive that Utah will win, then back it up and give me some points. I'm just testing your fandom, that is all. If you don't think the Utes will win, then don't offer me any points. Simple.

 

[SaltyDawg]

If you fully expect Utah to win, then don't add an asterisk to your post like, "Barring Injury" because it makes you look like a flaming roast beef curtain. Also, if you're so positive that Utah will win, then back it up and give me some points. I'm just testing your fandom, that is all. If you don't think the Utes will win, then don't offer me any points. Simple.

I didn't add an asterisk. I said Utah will win. And of course if the entire starting lineup goes down before the game then I might change my opinion. But as of right now, barring injuries, Utah should blow BYU out.

And if you want points after that crap last year then you have exposed yourself to be a fraud.

Don't come in here and challenge me to a bet, and then act like it's my fault when you wuss out. You don't expect BYU to win, fine. Not too many people should expect BYU to beat Utah at this point so we can't fault you for it.

 

[TroutBum]

I didn't add an asterisk. I said Utah will win. And of course if the entire starting lineup goes down before the game then I might change my opinion. But as of right now, barring injuries, Utah should blow BYU out.

And if you want points after that crap last year then you have exposed yourself to be a fraud.

Don't come in here and challenge me to a bet, and then act like it's my fault when you wuss out. You don't expect BYU to win, fine. Not too many people should expect BYU to beat Utah at this point so we can't fault you for it.

Classic back pedal, I love it. Let me get this straight, Mr. Utah Fan, you're postive Utah will beat BYU, but you're going to put an asterisk by it so if/when there are injuries, you can back out of the bet. Right? Furthermore, you're the guy who is saying that Utah will blow out BYU, so shouldn't it be on YOU -- you know, the guy making the brash statements -- to back it up? I don't want or need points, nor do I need to worry about 'injuries' or any of that nonsense, but I do find it funny and typical that you can't back up all your absurd talk with any form of testicular fortitude.