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Which Current Jazz Player(s) Will Still Be Here 10 years From Now.

JFFR said:
We were spoiled with Stockton and Malone. It won't happen again. Players leave when they can.
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Only if we're losing. Stockton and Malone stuck around because the Jazz were in the playoffs every season and legit contenders for many of those. Jazz could have kept Millsap and others had they wanted. Synder can have a Sloan-like stay in Utah if the team is winning. Favors and Gobert are becoming great friends and Derrick has said he really likes Utah. He knows what it was like in a hell-hole like New Jersey. As for Rudy, Jazz have answered his call to be a starter. He produced and the Jazz responded by trading Kanter. Rudy is here for at least another six. Jazz will certainly match any offer he gets - and may just come to agreement on a 5yr deal.

Don't underestimate the loyalty certain players will develop to Quin. He's a player's coach. His whole staff has one purpose: to develop each player to their fullest potential. We can't keep everyone. We may very well see good subs like Hood, etc. excel and get better deals elsewhere when their rookie deals expire. That could even happen with Booker if he continues to develop a 3PT shot. And yes, there might be a player like Deron who wants to play under the bright lights. That's one reason why it's good to have so many future draft picks. Some talent will need to be replaced.
 
Only three players in Jazz franchise history have stuck around for 11+ seasons: Malone, Stockton, Eaton. I doubt anyone currently on the roster is with the team in 2024/25.
 
GVC said:
Only three players in Jazz franchise history have stuck around for 11+ seasons: Malone, Stockton, Eaton. I doubt anyone currently on the roster is with the team in 2024/25.
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Good point. But a lot of Utah players outside those three came via trade or were signed well into their careers. We have at least three who are very young - and VERY good, and I don't think we'll look to upgrade (Favors, Gobert and Hayward) and possibly a 4th in Exum. I don't think the Jazz have EVER had this many promising YOUNG players. In 10 years, the "old man" would be Hayward at 34. Favors will be 33, Gobert 32 and Exum 29. That's still prime for all or at the very beginning of decline.

Also consider that NBA players come into the league much younger now. Back in the days of Stockton/Malone most players stayed in college for 4 years. Now most lottery picks - and even into the late first are "one and done."
 
I'm more interested in knowing if any of the current players will have a 10+ year tenure in Utah, rather than specifically be here 10 exact years from now--so poor wording on my part. Hayward, for example, would meet the decade mark in 5 more seasons. D-Will was here for 5.5 years.
 
Stifle Tower said:
Good point. But a lot of Utah players outside those three came via trade or were signed well into their careers. We have at least three who are very young - and VERY good, and I don't think we'll look to upgrade (Favors, Gobert and Hayward) and possibly a 4th in Exum. I don't think the Jazz have EVER had this many promising YOUNG players. In 10 years, the "old man" would be Hayward at 34. Favors will be 33, Gobert 32 and Exum 29. That's still prime for all or at the very beginning of decline.

Also consider that NBA players come into the league much younger now. Back in the days of Stockton/Malone most players stayed in college for 4 years. Now most lottery picks - and even into the late first are "one and done."
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There are currently 77 players in their 11th+ season. 9 of these players have played on their current team for the last 11+ consecutive seasons:

Varejao
Dirk
Kobe
Haslem
Wade
Nick Collison
Duncan
Tony Parker
Manu


It's very rare for a player to stay with the same team for 11+ seasons. Odds are none of the current Jazz players are with the team in 2024/25.
 
GVC said:
There are currently 77 players in their 11th+ season. 9 of these players have played on their current team for the last 11+ consecutive seasons:

Varejao
Dirk
Kobe
Haslem
Wade
Nick Collison
Duncan
Tony Parker
Manu


It's very rare for a player to stay with the same team for 11+ seasons. Odds are none of the current Jazz players are with the team in 2024/25.
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Big three. Says a lot.
 
GVC said:
There are currently 77 players in their 11th+ season. 9 of these players have played on their current team for the last 11+ consecutive seasons:

Varejao
Dirk
Kobe
Haslem
Wade
Nick Collison
Duncan
Tony Parker
Manu


It's very rare for a player to stay with the same team for 11+ seasons. Odds are none of the current Jazz players are with the team in 2024/25.
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I wonder what the numbers are for 10+ seasons. I feel like AK was here for ten years.
 
Wow. Based on the classless ignoble negative comment and rep I just received from Freakazoid for commenting in this thread, I'm afraid I have lost a great deal of respect for him as a poster. Even worse, I'm afraid he's not a happy camper. :(
 
Hayward only needs 5 more years, and has a contract for 2-3 more, so he's not that far off.
If he re-signs for 2-3 more years, he'll qualify as a decade player.
 
Batman said:
Wow. Based on the classless ignoble negative comment and rep I just received from Freakazoid for commenting in this thread, I'm afraid I have lost a great deal of respect for him as a poster. Even worse, I'm afraid he's not a happy camper. :(
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neggers gonna neg, Mayor bro. he negs me due to havin some imaginary beef w/ me as well. hopefully he will find peace some day. they neg what they dont understand--stupidity is the basis for racialism. #PeaceB4Beef
 
GVC said:
It's very rare for a player to stay with the same team for 11+ seasons. Odds are none of the current Jazz players are with the team in 2024/25.
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Agree that the NBA odds are against it. But it would not surprise me one bit if Favors, Gobert, Hayward and/or Exum becomes our Duncan/Manu/Parker trio. Our organization doesn't make rash decisions and Lindsey/Snyder are advocates of the SA system - namely, find good young players and let them develop together. Only question will be can we pay them all? In that respect, Hayward might be the most dispensable. He's the most talented offensively, but decent wings are always available. Bigs and PG's are in shorter supply.
 
GVC said:
Only three players in Jazz franchise history have stuck around for 11+ seasons: Malone, Stockton, Eaton. I doubt anyone currently on the roster is with the team in 2024/25.
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How about Thon Maker? Courtesy of the Golden State Warriors. He'll be in the middle of his second contract ten years from now.
 
10 years is a long time in the league and Hayward and Favors are 4-5 years in. I doubt any of them will play 15 years in the league and play them all or mostly all for the Jazz.
 
GVC said:
The NBA is loaded with decent point guards. Quality wings are much harder to find.
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If we wanted to get rid of Trey this summer and move Dante to the bench, name a quality PG who would be available. Most are RFA's who will be kept by their current teams. The maneuvering that was done at the trade deadline pretty much guarantees that. Dragic wouldn't opt out and come to Utah. So that leaves guys like Lin, Barea and Brooks. There are more viable SG's and SF's available in free agency this summer. And every year in the draft there seem to be 2-3 PG's that have eventual starting potential. There are many more wing prospects who come out.
 
Stifle Tower said:
If we wanted to get rid of Trey this summer and move Dante to the bench, name a quality PG who would be available. Most are RFA's who will be kept by their current teams. The maneuvering that was done at the trade deadline pretty much guarantees that. Dragic wouldn't opt out and come to Utah. So that leaves guys like Lin, Barea and Brooks. There are more viable SG's and SF's available in free agency this summer. And every year in the draft there seem to be 2-3 PG's that have eventual starting potential. There are many more wing prospects who come out.
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You were talking about the relative supply of quality players in general, no? Do you think the Jazz should move Gordo this summer? Take a look at the list of top PGs v. SGs and SFs; currently, quality point guards are abundant.

Here's a list of quality PGs moved at this season's trade deadline:
Goran Dragic
Brandon Knight
Isaiah Thomas
Reggie Jackson
MCW

How many quality wings have been available this season? Replacing Gordo is more difficult than replacing Favors or Exum.
 
GVC said:
You were talking about the relative supply of quality players in general, no? Do you think the Jazz should move Gordo this summer? Take a look at the list of top PGs v. SGs and SFs; currently, quality point guards are abundant.

Here's a list of quality PGs moved at this season's trade deadline:
Goran Dragic
Brandon Knight
Isaiah Thomas
Reggie Jackson
MCW

How many quality wings have been available this season? Replacing Gordo is more difficult than replacing Favors or Exum.
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This is exactly why hayward and Gobert are the most valuable players on the team right now.
 
GVC said:
You were talking about the relative supply of quality players in general, no? Do you think the Jazz should move Gordo this summer? Take a look at the list of top PGs v. SGs and SFs; currently, quality point guards are abundant.

Here's a list of quality PGs moved at this season's trade deadline:
Goran Dragic
Brandon Knight
Isaiah Thomas
Reggie Jackson
MCW

How many quality wings have been available this season? Replacing Gordo is more difficult than replacing Favors or Exum.
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No, that wasn't my question. I never said wings at the deadline. And just because fewer were traded THIS year doesn't mean they weren't available. It was a very unusual trade deadline and a lot of players were moved, with the big names being the disgruntled PG's. Teams maneuvered for PG's, largely led by Phoenix (three of those five on your list traded from/to Phoenix).

Assume Gordon or Trey were FA's and one was to leave. Name the FA PG's who would legitimately be available to the Jazz this summer. IINM, all of those players on your list are either under contract or are RFA's, the exception being Dragic, who has a player option. The available UNRESTRICTED pool is very shallow, with Lin, Barea and Brooks being the best.

However, there are several wings who are UFA's such as Carroll, Matthews (well, the injury NOW plays into that, of course), Danny Green, Bellinelli, McDaniels, Babbitt, Gee, etc. I'm not arguing ANY of those players are at the level of Hayward. They aren't. But if Exum, Favors, Gobert and Hayward were all playing at fringe all-star level, replacing Hayward's contribution would be the easiest, probably followed bv Favors.

Finding impact 5's and 1's is much harder than finding wings.
 
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