Who are the 10 greatest NBA Players of all Time?
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Jaymz
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#respect for the man carrying the 23-0 perfect season
carolinajazz
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.....yeah, begrudgingly....and I was born and raised in Chicago! But left way before Jordan ever played a game for the Bulls! I was there when Sloan and VanLear were the guards! Anyway, I'm adding Lebron and Curry (Curry begrudgingly as well!) based on what they are accomplishing and what they probably will end up with statistically! So now I've got 2 more guys to choose! I'm thinking, I'm thinking!
carolinajazz
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Ok, I'm going with Bird and Magic! That means only 2 white guys on my "all time" team! So there, who could possibly accuse me now of being bias or prejudice! Would love to sneak Rick Barry in there....but just can't do it! Hey, how about Brent Barry? He's the ONLY guy to ever win an NBA dunk contest....and will be the ONLY guy to ever do it! Oh, wait! I don't have Bill Russell on that team? Gonna have to kick someone off! Jordan!
carolinajazz
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Why did you come to that conclusion? Because he only has one small tattoo on his ankle?
b_line
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Lots of guys in the conversation. I think it has to be a top 20 to be really honest. There is too little separation.
Off the top of my head:
Jerry west
Stock
Mailman
Admiral
Magic
MJ
Bird
Kaj
Moses
Sir Charles
The dream
Maybe scottie
Shaq
Big o
Iceman
Pistol
Dr j
Kobe
Duncan
Le baron
Curry
Iverson
These are all in the conversation and probably some more. In my mind you can't just say top ten. It's not as cut and dry as a dollar amount or something like that.
If you've ever seen bill simmons pyramid if greatness from his book, it makes more sense than a top ten list (although it is extremely biased to celtics greats)
Off the top of my head:
Jerry west
Stock
Mailman
Admiral
Magic
MJ
Bird
Kaj
Moses
Sir Charles
The dream
Maybe scottie
Shaq
Big o
Iceman
Pistol
Dr j
Kobe
Duncan
Le baron
Curry
Iverson
These are all in the conversation and probably some more. In my mind you can't just say top ten. It's not as cut and dry as a dollar amount or something like that.
If you've ever seen bill simmons pyramid if greatness from his book, it makes more sense than a top ten list (although it is extremely biased to celtics greats)
Hotdog
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As far as Stockton and Malone go. I don't think either is in the top10. Malone however would be close. The Jazz just didn't have a lot of help, ever. They were really up against it. So no rings doesn't really mean all that much. With the same help a lot for these other stars had, I think the Jazz could have won a couple probably.
I don't think Stockton is close to the top10 though. Sure, he has those unbreakable records, but they are both kinda overrated statical categories. His assist numbers had a lot to do with Malone being his teammate. I think the stat counters were a little more generous back then too. It's also a category that doesn't always mean you did something great either. It's often times just handing the ball off to the better player and watching him do the work. But I'm not saying it doesn't mean anything or that Stockton wasn't an elite passer. He was. I just think that probably half of the those assist don't really mean much, and they don't really mean much in every player's case. Not every assist is equal to another. Some come from and elite move that gets your teamates a great look. Some just come because you did nothing really but give the ball up.
What I'm saying is, I wouldn't be taking that over a guy who can just get it done on his own and completely dominate his opponent. That is more valuable more times than not. Malone was a beast. He was dominant. Just not a lot of help and not so clutch. But still great and near the top10.
I think you'd be a fool to take John Stockton over Karl Malone. You would even be a fool to take Stockton over a guy like Durant, or Kobe, or Wade. Those are easy, but I could go down the list pretty far, before I take Stockton. Give me Barkley, Dominique Wilkins, etc. A bunch more too. And yes, definitely Steph Curry.
I don't think Stockton is close to the top10 though. Sure, he has those unbreakable records, but they are both kinda overrated statical categories. His assist numbers had a lot to do with Malone being his teammate. I think the stat counters were a little more generous back then too. It's also a category that doesn't always mean you did something great either. It's often times just handing the ball off to the better player and watching him do the work. But I'm not saying it doesn't mean anything or that Stockton wasn't an elite passer. He was. I just think that probably half of the those assist don't really mean much, and they don't really mean much in every player's case. Not every assist is equal to another. Some come from and elite move that gets your teamates a great look. Some just come because you did nothing really but give the ball up.
What I'm saying is, I wouldn't be taking that over a guy who can just get it done on his own and completely dominate his opponent. That is more valuable more times than not. Malone was a beast. He was dominant. Just not a lot of help and not so clutch. But still great and near the top10.
I think you'd be a fool to take John Stockton over Karl Malone. You would even be a fool to take Stockton over a guy like Durant, or Kobe, or Wade. Those are easy, but I could go down the list pretty far, before I take Stockton. Give me Barkley, Dominique Wilkins, etc. A bunch more too. And yes, definitely Steph Curry.
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Hotdog
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I don't ever think it's too early to discuss whether or not a player is an all time great. I like what a player does at his peak and how dominant he was his his prime much more than how long he did it. Longevity has its merits and should celebrated and recognized, it just not what's going to make me decide who was a better player.
My top 10 in order.
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul Jabar
3. Steph Curry
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Hakeem Olajuwon
8. Lebron James
9. Kobe Bryant
10. Bill Russell
My top 10 in order.
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul Jabar
3. Steph Curry
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Hakeem Olajuwon
8. Lebron James
9. Kobe Bryant
10. Bill Russell
gregbroncs
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Iverson? Are you high? One of the least efficient players ever, the biggest joke of an MVP of all time. He would not be in my top 100 players of all time.
Miggs
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Iverson and Maravich? But not someone like Elgin Baylor? No. Just no.
So wait, let me get this straight, you are begrudgingly putting Michael Jordan in your top ten of all-time? So he might not even get into your list but you gave him a pass?
What. Exactly. Are. You. Smoking?