Who says No?

[Gyp Rosetti]

Wesley didn't look good his first month either.

His October shooting numbers: 36.7% FG, 20.0% 3PFG, 70% FT

His November shooting numbers: 42.4% FG, 37.5% 3PFG, 60% FT

Compare to season long-numbers: 39.7% FG, 35.6% 3PFG, 69.6% FT

Not exactly blowing the doors off. He had a nice stretch of about 7 games in December but his numbers the rest of the seaon look almost exactly like the October and November guy and he doesn't do enough of anything else to justify keeping him on the floor. The free throw percentage is particularly troubling as for players under 6'10" or so (i.e. not primarily post players) that's frequently an indicator of how mechanically solid a player's shot is. Johnson's 69.6% is very Ronnie Brewer-esque (69.9% FT for his career). Although, to be honest, I was surprised by that given that there's no reason he should have suddenly lost 8points off his free throw percentage from college. Somehow he did it though.

Way to put in October, a month full with games, and leave out December. My point was at the end of 2010 (hence my 2011 reference), he was at 45.9% for the season which is very good for a rookie wing on a team with awful point guard play. After that, he fell apart.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Johnson would be a better player here no doubt. It must really really really suck playing for Minnesota. I still dont want him though, but I do feel bad for him, as I do for all Minnesota players not named Michael Beasley.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

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Here, Hear!

 

[sirkickyass]

Way to put in October, a month full with games,

Well I was responding to

He started off the year very well

So, I started at the start and gave a sample that included the first 17 games (approximately 20%) of the season. If you didn't want me to start at the beginning, maybe you shouldn't have referenced the start of the season and instead just told the truth: which is that he looked really good for about two and a half weeks in December.

My point was at the end of 2010 (hence my 2011 reference), he was at 45.9% for the season which is very good for a rookie wing on a team with awful point guard play. After that, he fell apart.

That percentage, in retrospect, appears to be unduly biased by the one hot stretch of his whole season. The more accurate story: He struggled at the beginning of the season, got hot for a couple weeks, and then struggled again, got hot for another week at the end of January, and then had about 3 more good games the rest of the season.

The guy just looks inconsistent, which is something we've had enough of on the wing. But since you were Wesley Johnson fanboy #1 at this time last year I understand you're essentially married to the opinion.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Well I was responding to

So, I started at the start and gave a sample that included the first 17 games (approximately 20%) of the season. If you didn't want me to start at the beginning, maybe you shouldn't have referenced the start of the season and instead just told the truth: which is that he looked really good for about two and a half weeks in December.




That percentage, in retrospect, appears to be unduly biased by the one hot stretch of his whole season. The more accurate story: He struggled at the beginning of the season, got hot for a couple weeks, and then struggled again, got hot for another week at the end of January, and then had about 3 more good games the rest of the season.

The guy just looks inconsistent, which is something we've had enough of on the wing. But since you were Wesley Johnson fanboy #1 at this time last year I understand you're essentially married to the opinion.

I started at the beginning of the season because his percentages increased from October (hence the beginning of the season) to November and then again from November to December. He was looking stronger and stronger coming off the month of December in which he shot over 50% from the floor. His performance dropped except for that later January surge you mentioned and then he plummeted from there. That's no surprise. Most rookies hit some form of the rookie wall, which for him came not surprisingly after that 46th game, a bit more than he and other college players are accustomed to.

Evidently those stats are biased though. We should ignore the undeniable improvement month to month and ignore Johnson's referenced hot streak in December and consider only his poor games up to that point and thereafter. True. But that's not biased. What's funny is that it makes those stats through 2010 look even more impressive. He was at nearly 46% for the year despite, according to you, performing so badly in the rest of October, November and December.

And I'm far from a Johnson fanboy.

 

[sirkickyass]

Alright dude, I doubt even Johnson's mother would call his rookie season impressive with a straight face.

And you were the posterchild for being a Wesley Johnson fanboy on this board last season. You can't run from that now.

 

[Justys]

Alright dude, I doubt even Johnson's mother would call his rookie season impressive with a straight face.

And you were the posterchild for being a Wesley Johnson fanboy on this board last season. You can't run from that now.

Lol all repped out but that part about his mommy was funny.

 

[Qman]

Wesley Johnson's PER last year was 10.2.

For comparison CJ Miles's PER was 14.4.

Earl Watson's PER was 10.2.

Johnson really didn't have a very good season. But he is still a talented player.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Alright dude, I doubt even Johnson's mother would call his rookie season impressive with a straight face.

And you were the posterchild for being a Wesley Johnson fanboy on this board last season. You can't run from that now.

Is this you retreating?

 

[NUMBERICA]

I keep thinking that the Golden State pick is going to be awesome. But Golden State might have some money this summer depending on the new cba. And if they added someone like Dalembert, to be paired up with David Lee. I think there a playoff team. And then the pick won't be all that great? But, who knows? And do I really want Flynn running the Jazz in 2 years? Or Darko being the 3rd big? Or Hayward playing the 3, with Johnson at the 2?

Golden State is nowhere close. They just let a coach go who I thought was pretty good, David Lee isn't that good, Biedrins is a stick-man with the shooting ability of Shaq, Curry has a tendency to disappear for long stretches, Ellis is a chucker of a bygone era. Who else do they have? Who is going to orchestrate a flawed "core" and a bunch of uni-dimensional role players (pure shooters and pure hustle guys that don't produce, almost top to bottom) in an insanely competitive conference TO THE PLAYOFFS? Who are they going to get in the draft that will make an impact?

I don't see it. They're going to be more or less the same team next year. And if 2012 is as stacked as I've heard and understand, you don't give up a lottery pick in almost any circumstance. In fact, the WORST thing that could happen with it is that GS is SO bad that the Jazz don't get it and the Warriors get a franchise-changer and the pick becomes much less.

For me, though, unless you're getting a sure thing, you don't trade that pick. I like Wesley Johnson quite a bit, but he hasn't been much more than a bomber and his rebounding and defensive impact hasn't translated (yet). He's a pretty old player for a rookie, too. And Darko? And the great deflating hope? Yeah, I don't see a near-certain core player in there. I'd sit on my chips.

 

[LogGrad98]

Wesley Johnson's PER last year was 10.2.

For comparison CJ Miles's PER was 14.4.

Earl Watson's PER was 10.2.

Johnson really didn't have a very good season. But he is still a talented player.

What is funny about that is I would much rather see Watson on the floor than CJ. So I guess that means I would be happy with Johnson.

 

[jazzrule]

How awesome could it be? It's top 7 protected.

Yeah you are right - there are no good players next year after pick 7.
8. Los Angeles Clippers: Perry Jones, F, Baylor, 6-10, Fr.

A likely top-10 pick in the 2011 NBA Draft, Perry Jones surprised many by returning for his sophomore season.


9.

Milwaukee Bucks: Thomas Robinson, PF, Kansas, 6-9, Soph.

Expect Thomas Robinson to blow up at Kansas during his junior campaign since he will be their go-to inside presence.


10. Charlotte Bobcats: Marquis Teague, PG, Kentucky, 6-2, HS Sr.

Marquis Teague figures to be the next in line of John Calipari-coached point guards to be one and done.


11. Golden State Warriors: Jeremy Lamb, SG, UConn, 6-5, Fr.

Jeremy Lamb really came on during UConn's run to the national title. He is a great outside shooter, and is also very long and athletic.





12. Utah Jazz: John Henson, F, North Carolina, 6-10, So.

John Henson is insanely long and has nice athleticism, but his rail-thin frame will be his biggest obstacle in transitioning to the next level.

Tongue planted firmly in cheek. I wouldn't want any of those players after pick 7 next year.