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Why are gun owners afraid to admit they own guns?

Bulletproof said:
Well, there has been a push recently to stop calling car accidents "accidents" because it implies that it was unavoidable, jut something that happens when we drive cars and there's nothing we can do about it. The reality is that when there is a car accident 99% of the time it was the result of negligence or some other form of misconduct. So it is possible, if we eliminate the negligent behaviors we can almost eliminate car related injuries and deaths.

Same goes for firearms. If we call shootings "accidental" it implies that it's just something that happens when we have guns around and that there's really no way to avoid it. That's false. Just like with car accidents, 99% of shootings that result in the unintentional death or injury of a person could have been avoided had the person with the gun not acted in a negligent way, violating the basic rules of firearm safety.

Here in Utah a guy with a concealed weapon destroyed a toilet in a fast food place. His defense was that the gun just "went off." Let's take that defense completely off the table and stop acting like guns just go off or discharge by some random accident. Guns fire when the trigger is pulled. That's not a 99% thing, that's a 99.9999% thing.
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While I agree with the far majority of this post, something comes to mind as referenced in a recent espn.com article on gun violence in New Orleans and really Louisiana in general. In this article, the author referenced West Point Lt. Col. Dave Grossman who teaches at the institution, has field expertise as it pertains to weaponry and their usage, done research on such, and has written several books, namely In Combat and On Killing.

I recommend the read and found the author's reference to Grossman and the science and psychology behind his positions fascinating. See below. I really can't recommend the article enough. Heck, in many ways I feel like the article and/or Grossman's books should be mandatory reading. Hyperbole sure but read the article for yourselves. It's very, very interesting, at least to me.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...ht-smith-raise-questions-new-orleans-violence
 
green said:
Would you be ok if gun owners needed to take training and be licensed to carry/store/own a gun? And you would have to periodically refresh your schooling on gun safety, storage, etc?
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I'd be ok with this type of thing, fwiw.
 
Part of the problem with car accidents is that there are far too many people on the road who shouldn't be. Driver's tests are a joke for the most part and there are so many awful drivers out there.
 
fishonjazz said:
Again, I'm not trying to say you should use these words or those words. Use whatever words you want.
I'm simply saying that when we all read jazgals post we knew what she meant regardless of how it was worded.
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Okay. I just don't feel like discussions like this are useful if each "side" is using the same terms but applying different meanings.

Also, as I've been saying, I think it's important to use the correct words because I think it matters in regard to holding people accountable.

That said, I'll bow out. We're not going to go anywhere if we can't agree on what the relevant terms mean.
 
Bulletproof said:
Okay. I just don't feel like discussions like this are useful if each "side" is using the same terms but applying different meanings.

Also, as I've been saying, I think it's important to use the correct words because I think it matters in regard to holding people accountable.

That said, I'll bow out. We're not going to go anywhere if we can't agree on what the relevant terms mean.
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I actually agree with using your terms. Jazz gal did too when she said she could have worded it differently.

All I was trying to say is that we all knew what she meant regardless of the wording. I stand by that.
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Btw [MENTION=26]Gameface[/MENTION] I got written up today at work for some dumb **** and I'm in a horrible mood so I'm sorry if I'm being a dick.
 
fishonjazz said:
I actually agree with using your terms. Jazz gal did too when she said she could have worded it differently.

All I was trying to say is that we all knew what she meant regardless of the wording. I stand by that.
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Okay. Yeah I knew what she meant.
 
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My husband and I spent some time at the gun range today. First time shooting my new pistol. Bragged about it on Facebook. ;)
 
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