Will The Jazz Make a Draft Day Trade?

[idiot]

I keep thinking we can do something with OKC but they also seem to win every effing deal... there are already reports they might be able to move Kemba for additional draft stuff... he hasn't played a game yet and they are increasing his value.

Just curious where you think value lies in this scenario (not that the Jazz should consider it, there are surely better options) -- trying to gauge what it costs to deal with OKC these days:

Ingles and Bogey to OKC for Kenrich Williams and Gabriel Deck. Would save Jazz about $25 million. Combined with offloading Favors may allow for use of full MLE, if I'm not mistaken, along with re-signing Conley.

What kind of draft picks should be attached to the deal (flowing in what direction)?

 

[zyzz]

I voted that we’ll move down/out. But I have a weird feeling that we have a trade-up target that we’re keeping under wraps… So all of this really means that we’re going to stand pat and pick at 30 lol

 

[Eminence]

Just curious where you think value lies in this scenario (not that the Jazz should consider it, there are surely better options) -- trying to gauge what it costs to deal with OKC these days:

Ingles and Bogey to OKC for Kenrich Williams and Gabriel Deck. Would save Jazz about $25 million. Combined with offloading Favors may allow for use of full MLE, if I'm not mistaken, along with re-signing Conley.

What kind of draft picks should be attached to the deal (flowing in what direction)?

Now that would suck, that's Utah packing it in as any sort of contender for next season.

 

[babe]

So I know nothing, but voted 'No Trade" simply because I'm still stuck on cheering for this years team.

The schedule meant injuries/stresses were the major consideration for the season. To last with your players still able to play meant it was smart to just trhrow some season games and angle for a down slot in the playoffs you could work. At least in the West.

I just wish we could have had our team for the playoffs.

Maybe next year????

nah. This is a competitive business. Nobodys gonna come back with the same people. Gotta keep up with the times and get some younger, uninjured players.

I think our best strategy would be to go for more picks or better picks.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Just curious where you think value lies in this scenario (not that the Jazz should consider it, there are surely better options) -- trying to gauge what it costs to deal with OKC these days:

Ingles and Bogey to OKC for Kenrich Williams and Gabriel Deck. Would save Jazz about $25 million. Combined with offloading Favors may allow for use of full MLE, if I'm not mistaken, along with re-signing Conley.

What kind of draft picks should be attached to the deal (flowing in what direction)?

I would very much like to get Williams but am thinking much smaller. Favs & 30 for Williams and a second round pick... they would likely swap some of their seconds for 30 if there is something there they want. It might just end up as Favs & 30 for 36 and 55. Might be wishful thinking to get 36. If they are able to use 16, 18, and one of their picks in the 30s to move up they may want to do Favs & 30 for Williams (maybe Roby) so they can get a pick back.

Ideally you want to send someone that values Favs as a player so they are giving you some value in the trade for that.. OKC its just a cap maneuver so you are treating him as dead money which nets the lowest return imo.

 

[Jingled]

Pelicans have a lot of cap space to absorb salary and are looking for veteran help.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Pelicans have a lot of cap space to absorb salary and are looking for veteran help.

Just call em... call em everyday. Bojan for #17? I'd try to sneak #35 too.

I heard a rumor they may try and do a sign and trade of Ball for Brogdon... would make yesterday's cap dump kinda silly since they could have done that deal either way.

 

[KqWIN]

Locke talked about a potential Favors deal and implied we trade Favors and our first and receive a second in return. I think that's the most likely scenario. He mentioned Herb Jones as a guy he likes, but it seemed to come from his own analysis so I wouldn't #LockeWatch it.

 

[Udidthizz]

Pelicans have a lot of cap space to absorb salary and are looking for veteran help.

Trade Favs back to the Pelicans...

 

[idiot]

I would very much like to get Williams but am thinking much smaller. Favs & 30 for Williams and a second round pick... they would likely swap some of their seconds for 30 if there is something there they want. It might just end up as Favs & 30 for 36 and 55. Might be wishful thinking to get 36. If they are able to use 16, 18, and one of their picks in the 30s to move up they may want to do Favs & 30 for Williams (maybe Roby) so they can get a pick back.

Ideally you want to send someone that values Favs as a player so they are giving you some value in the trade for that.. OKC its just a cap maneuver so you are treating him as dead money which nets the lowest return imo.

Yeah, I understand all this. My question was more theoretical than designed to optimize things from the Jazz POV.

I was just mainly wondering for teams trying to shed salary (not saying the Jazz should) with otherwise useful, decently compensated players (Ingles and Bogey for argument sake) , what the OKC premium is for using their cap space as a clearing house that would allow them to be later moved to a team with that could use them, a team that would have a hard time directly dealing with the Jazz because of salary matching issues.

Would OKC even entertain giving up draft picks in such a case? I know their pattern has typically been to try to pick up draft assets on both sides.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah, I understand all this. My question was more theoretical than designed to optimize things from the Jazz POV.

I was just mainly wondering for teams trying to shed salary (not saying the Jazz should) with otherwise useful, decently compensated players (Ingles and Bogey for argument sake) , what the OKC premium is for using their cap space as a clearing house that would allow them to be later moved to a team with that could use them, a team that would have a hard time directly dealing with the Jazz because of salary matching issues.

Would OKC even entertain giving up draft picks in such a case? I know their pattern has typically been to try to pick up draft assets on both sides.

Presti gets a pick before he takes the call... its just how bizness works in OKC.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Locke talked about a potential Favors deal and implied we trade Favors and our first and receive a second in return. I think that's the most likely scenario. He mentioned Herb Jones as a guy he likes, but it seemed to come from his own analysis so I wouldn't #LockeWatch it.

I'm fine with this I suppose. It isn't sexy at all but that's a reasonable price.