Will there be American invasion in Syria?

[Stoked]

But the only way to prove we have/had plans is to expose your own espionage

Sent from your moms room.... While she was sleeping.

https://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-syria-strikes-20130908,0,6708714.story

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/...th-a-focus-on-forces.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

https://www.cnn.com/2013/08/23/world/meast/us-syria-military-options/

https://world.time.com/2013/09/06/obama-orders-military-to-expand-syrian-targets/

Need I continue? The pentagon was ordered to draw up attack plans and they did. Clearly we are planning to attack Syria.

Come on man.

 

[Harambe]

https://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-syria-strikes-20130908,0,6708714.story

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/...th-a-focus-on-forces.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

https://www.cnn.com/2013/08/23/world/meast/us-syria-military-options/

https://world.time.com/2013/09/06/obama-orders-military-to-expand-syrian-targets/

Need I continue? The pentagon was ordered to draw up attack plans and they did. Clearly we are planning to attack Syria.

Come on man.

You're not thinking like a criminal lawyer, dinkleburg.

Ofcourse it's clear there are plans. Duh. But to get out of that all we have to do is sink to their level of stretching time.

 

[Stoked]

You're not thinking like a criminal lawyer, dinkleburg.

Ofcourse it's clear there are plans. Duh. But to get out of that all we have to do is sink to their level of stretching time.

No thanks.

 

[Harambe]

No thanks.

I believe i very clearly stated we shouldn't do that before finishing that thought to its own end.

Sent from your moms room.... While she was sleeping.

 

[♪alt13]

Again, bro, you did not lay down a clear path on what you want to do. If you can't figure out what a simple lay out is, how can anyone take your accusations of backdoor deals seriously? "Look at how the US dealt with a problem". You didn't say lets do that, you didn't outline how we'd do that. You just threw some words together and were glad it made a sentence the might reflect your opinion.

Yes I did. You're just dodging my accusation that you don't know the historical context that I am speaking to. I can't fit 40 years of the history of Egyptian/Israeli/US relations here, but I can tell you this(again)the US brought a carrot not a stick. If the US wants a stable, peaceful, syria without WMDs we will get it by working with Assad. There is a lot we could offer him and the people of Syria(lifting of sanctions to start) but we don't even have an embassy there and we refuse to sit down with them. We have been encouraging the destabilization of syria for 2 years now.

If you think Assad is a bad guy I want you to try and imagine a syria with these guys in charge.
[removed by moderator]...and a piece of how you have chosen to tie this all in with your league of masterminds. [/QUOTE]
Putting words in my mouth again. U.S. officials have a bias for or against intervention depending on whether or not there is a "national interest".(financial) I do not see them as "masterminds". I disagree with them because I think what they are doing is fool hardy that doesn't make me a nut case.

I do not desire a conflict.

In the event Syria falls short by even one minute, we should make sure they regret it.

They will fall short by at least 2 minutes and you know it. So don't hedge your position this way.

 

[♪alt13]

Amazing moments happen when US presidents choose to play peace broker instead of policeman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPtMafxVKeA

 

[Stoked]

I believe i very clearly stated we shouldn't do that before finishing that thought to its own end.

Sent from your moms room.... While she was sleeping.

and that's fine. I'm just saying no thanks.

 

[One Brow]

So does MSNBC. In my opinion they are far worse than Fox in the racism dept. Anytime anyone disagrees with the President on any issue for any reason MSNBC hosts and guests will drop charges of racism.

In principle hate and disdain based on party affiliation is no better than hate based on race. I am not claiming they have the same history so relax One Brow.

I would agree with you on the Huffington Post. I haven't seen enough MS-NBC to judge.

 

[One Brow]

Yes racism is the bigger problem, history alone tells you that.

Edit: I can tell you that people are getting pretty damn sick of being labeled racist if they disagree with anything the President says or does.

At the same time, conservatives have been opposing this President with a ferocity that even exceeds the opposition to Clinton, despite Obama being more conservative than Clinton. It's naive to say that every one exhibiting such dislike is an open, conscious racist, but it's equally naive think that racial judgements play no part in that.

However, that's a discussion we've had before. If we want to discuss that further, let's do it in another thread, and save this one for Syria.

 

[One Brow]

Obviously racism can be worse. But you are seeing a horrendous trend of attacking the moral character of of a person just because they disagree. Where do you think that road leads?

Being ignorant of your racial privilege is not an issue of morals.

 

[Harambe]

You're just dodging my accusation that you don't know the historical context that I am speaking to.

Lets be frank here... I'm not dodging anything. I'm blatantly ignoring it in an effort to keep this thread on track. Your accusation is both unfounded and unwarranted, and trying to fight about it is a moot point.

But then again, you have a hard time with reading comprehension, so in an effort for peace, I'll give you this: Although I'm relatively well read, I'm no middle east expert. Nor do I need to be to understand what's fair and not.

Do not be under the impression that I think, or have ever really thought that "he will just do the right thing". My opinion has not changed or faltered since I started posting in this thread: if we do not give him the chance, we are the dictators. How can we preach freedom from that position?

We, being the UN and not just the US, have now given him that chance. My need to allow that, no matter how low and despicable the person is/was/can be has been satisfied.

 

[♪alt13]

Lets be frank here... I'm not dodging anything. I'm blatantly ignoring it in an effort to keep this thread on track. Your accusation is both unfounded and unwarranted, and trying to fight about it is a moot point.

But then again, you have a hard time with reading comprehension, so in an effort for peace, I'll give you this: Although I'm relatively well read, I'm no middle east expert. Nor do I need to be to understand what's fair and not.

Do not be under the impression that I think, or have ever really thought that "he will just do the right thing". My opinion has not changed or faltered since I started posting in this thread: if we do not give him the chance, we are the dictators. How can we preach freedom from that position?

We, being the UN and not just the US, have now given him that chance. My need to allow that, no matter how low and despicable the person is/was/can be has been satisfied.

What is fair does not matter when weighed against what will create peace and stability. I doubt that an American/NATO military strike will further either. What is the end game if we follow this course?